1958 Ingemar Johansson vs 1969 Jerry Quarry, who wins and why?

Machen was completely shot when he beat Quarry.
Yes Quarry did improve.

 

Ingo would have done a demolition job on the broken down version of Patterson that a prime Quarry couldn't convincingly beat.

Ingo in fact did a demolition job on a prime Patterson and a prime Machen. A past it Machen actually out boxed Quarry.

Ingo was KOed by a prime Patterson.
Quarry was KOed by a past prime Chuvalo. (Yes, Quarry botched the count .. largely cause he walked into a huge punch)

I think this would be easy money.

 

Richardson was coming off a good win.

I don't have every monthly ratings to check. Nor do I care much.
Johansson's accomplishments speak for themself.

 

Quarry's a bit overrated. He had an excellent career but people seem to forget he wasn't good enough to beat Jimmy Ellis for the WBA title, he wasn't good enough to beat Joe Frazier for the NYSAC, and his beat wins against Patterson are highly debatable.

 

I would have liked to have seen more as well, but we know fighters like Quarry end up facing so many people because they lose so frequently that other guys see them as an opportunity. Quarry was better than what we traditionally think of a as gatekeeper but he was used as one all the same.

 

Completely shot Quarry went 10 rds with Frazier a few months later.and had just beaten undefeated prospect Joey Orbillo when he faced Quarry.

 

Richardson was one fight away from retirement.
Johansson's accomplishments do speak for themselves.The sum total of them,is two wins over ranked fighters,in an11 year career.

 

Machen had struggled with Elmer Rush, had lost to Manuel Ramos. His fight with a 12-0 Frazier was mostly a one sided beatdown.
Quarry, although young, had more pro experience than any of them.

 

Would a 22 years old Ingo do it? A young Quarry fought Patterson twice,a prime Ingo fought him3 times how did that turn out for the Swede?
That,"broken down Patterson ," would go on to have a further11 fights over the next 5 years, losing just 2 of them, 1 a highly debateable one to Ellis the WBA champion,the other in his last fight to Muhammad Ali, and in between he beat the number 4 ranked Bonavena by convincing decision! lol

 

So what? He was on a high point. Just smashed Mildenberger in 1 round and was European champion.
Then he suffered KO defeats to Johansson and Cooper again and retired.

Retirement doesn't retroactively devalue a win.

He was world heavyweight champion.

 

Nobody is disputing he was world heavyweight champion ,what is up for debate is how good he was?
Marvin Hart was world heavyweight champion,so was Leon Spinks.
Were they great fighters? No, and neither was Johansson.

 

Quarry's high point is going 15 rounds with Ali's sparring partner Jimmy Ellis for the vacant WBA championship, while Ali was banned.

When Ali came back after 3 1/2 years Quarry was a suitable tune-up.

 

Johansson KO'd the #1 contender in 1 round to earn his shot. Then KO'd the world champion in 3 rounds to become champion. They were all in their primes.

So I think you are wrong to compare him to Marvin Hart or Leon Spinks.

 

I am saying, as far as greatness is concerned he fits more neatly with them than the other heavyweight champions.
ps Richardson had lost 4 of his last 8 fights and lost to all the better men he faced ,bottom line he was never world class ,and tkoing him at the end of his career means diddly squat!.

 

Quarry beat the following top ten ranked contenders.
Foster
Patterson
Lyle
Shavers
Spencer
That's 5
Johansson beat 1.
Suitable tune up? Quarry was the number 3 ranked contender!lol
U. Your corner needs to pull you out now ,because you are getting beaten up.