1960 Patterson vrs. 1973 Norton

I didn´t write you twist stuff. I wrote you got it wrong.

NM got it, so I don´t think it´s me.

 

Accusing someone of "wanting" to get your post wrong, is basically the same thing as saying that they were twisting your words around.. never mind semantics..

Your sentence basically read that Chuvalo and Bonavena were bigger than Norton... I now know that wasn't what you meant, but at the time that's how it read, regardless of how others may have interpreted it.. Have a nice day....

 

I think Patterson's quick combinations would give Norton a lot of trouble. I think that at his best he was faster with his hands than Ali, and Ali was slowing quite a bit by the time he fought Norton.

I take Patterson to win.

 

-Norton didn't face any fighters with a great left hook, except as you mentioned his sacrifice to Cooney and Jerry Quarry's sacrifice to him.

-I feel the hook is the key because it found the holes in Archie Moore's similar crab stance. Moore was just as good if not better fighting out of the crab than Norton. The crab is much better for defending straight jabs, the reason had so much success against Norton was ideal Ali, Young, and Holmes. Though not as quick as Patterson, Marciano also broke down the crab defense with left hooks.

-Shavers didn't impose his size on Norton, he was the much smaller man and notriously weak in terms of physical power. Shavers just started clubbing him when Norton foolishly tried crowd him and catch his punches like he was Ali or Quarry. Norton didn't have a reverse gear either, once he got into trouble, he was done for.

-Patterson's style left him open to getting knocked down occassionally. He got off the canvas to beat Ingo, one of the harder punchers in history. He nearly killed Machen. How many great punchers did Norton get off the canvas to beat?