1965-67 Muhammad Ali defends his title against the following modern day heavyweights

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He won't beat Smith emphatically
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    A 35 year old Holmes outboxed him and stopped him on cuts. We’re talking about a 1967 Ali here, Jake.
     
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  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Smith is a super heavyweight dreadnaught
     
  4. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Ali would easily beat all of those guys.
    Morrison and Tua couldn't knock Ali down playing Fight Night.
    I'm not "Ali is God" fanboy but those guys couldn't beat him. Morrison and Tua knocking him down? They wouldn't even know where he was until the fight was over. Yes, I know Cooper knocked him down, and Frazier. I don't believe either of those guys was as boxing smart as Cooper- bigger and more well publicized but not better. And neither of them would bring the type of pressure that affected Ali.
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Remember, Tua did KO John Ruiz and Michael Moorer
     
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    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Both guys known for being light on their feet.
    I swear, that Ruiz fight was an aberration and a blessing. I don't think that the result of that fight would be typical if they fought 100 times. The bulk of the 100 fights would be wrestling, clinching, one guy staying away, one guy unable to catch him. Thank God a 19 second fight meant no rematch.
     
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  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Cooper decked Ali in 1963 when Ali was like 22 years old with maybe 18 fights. By 1965 that wasn’t happening anymore
     
  8. greynotsoold

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    He got caught by Banks and Cooper when he was young, then Frazier much later.
    Frazier had levels to his game that Tua and Morrison did not.
     
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  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed. And Ali might have had some ring rust when he got decked by smoke
     
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  10. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    65-67 Ali whups them all on the same night just to one up Foreman's exhibition