(1966) Muhammad Ali vs (2019) Deontay Wilder

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bluebird, Aug 9, 2019.


Who wins?

  1. Ali

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  2. Wildr

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  1. ertwin

    ertwin Member Full Member

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    Dude you are the guy thinking everybody is an alt....
     
  2. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Tommy
    Glover
    Merchants ghost & others

    They were all the same person.
    About 4-5 years back.
    Any moderator will confirm if you don't believe it.
     
  3. ertwin

    ertwin Member Full Member

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    Yeah nice story bro.... and how does this help me or you.
     
  4. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Son , I neither know, nor care.
     
  5. Spud Head

    Spud Head Member booted Full Member

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    Wilder finishes what the Brit Cooper started !
     
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  6. john roberts

    john roberts Member Full Member

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    Compubox figures only confirms what I’ve known all along that there are two big stiff lumps with hardly any movement or feinting and poor skill knocking ten bells out of each other because they can’t dodge or slip or move out of the way of enough punches because they are too heavy and too big to get out of the way. And of course you will throw a lot of punchers if you know your opponent is going to be straight in front of you and know you will connect because the movement is poor. Plus many other factors like how hot, where a fight is, how many rounds and of course how many chemicals are in a fighter ala Whyte/miller ect.
     
  7. Official Scorecard

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    Yeah man it's obvious, these guys are just fanboying for Wilder without recognizing how easy his mistakes would be for Ali to exploit.
     
  8. Official Scorecard

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    Fury got caught while fooling around, plus Ali was even quicker than him and had quicker reflexes, but hey, if you want to keep believing he would KO Ali, feel free to stay in your illusions bro.
     
  9. Official Scorecard

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    Hahahahahaha, look if you want to believe Wilder would Ko Ali, feel free to stay in your illusions.
    Wilder right hand and his long reach? He can land it good from only one distance. And to do so you need to be a sitting duck. Even the Fury KDs happened when Fury wasn't moving around and became careless. I'm the first one to say Ali was very oppened for counters but Wilder can't do it to save his life, except if you rate Szpilka as an A level all time great... Look at the Fury fight and tell me Wilder isn't one of the lowest ring IQ heavyweight champion ever? He kept on throwing the same jab-right-left hook combo over and over the whole night, without ever trying to set his punches up.
    As far as Tyson goes, when it comes to boxing he was always very humble in a sense that he loves boxing and he was always giving respect to the champions before and after him. WHILE you can find the articles where he was asking his trainer does he think he would beat Ali, and it was when cameras weren't on. Iron Mike vs Klitschkos? Vitali would be a very hard fight for him, Vitali could be able to beat him, that's a tough stylistic match up for him, but Wlad? Tyson folds him the same way he would fold Wilder. Even Tyson knows very well that he would beat Wlad, but he chose to be respectful as usual, he doesn't want to downgrade a respectable champion because he wants the best for the sport of boxing. Wilder? Tyson folds him in 2 rounds.
     
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  10. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder is a smashing brawler (guys, watch his style!)...Ali is The Boxing!
     
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  11. ertwin

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    If you listen to what tyson was saying, he was not only talking about the 2 klitschkos, he was referring to the sport in general and he is pointing out the excact same things as i am. Training methods get better, nutrions gets better and technique gets better its just in the nature of sport. Tyson is indeed very respectful but he is giving his clear and honest opinion. Its hard to talk to you guys because you just ignore facts. I mean you are really simply saying tyson is not meaning what he is saying cause it doesnt suit your narrative, how stupid is that.
    Its like you guys were claiming that heavyweight where fitter back in the old days and when we showed you statistics that prove that your point is nonsense, then you simply stop writing and just keep on talking nonsense.
    I like tyson a lot, but the poor guy would be battered by booth klitschkos.
    To the movement argument, it is absolute nonsense to say that wilder can only land if the other guy is standing, he landed flush on fury and ortiz who both have very good footwork, fury was not careless with the second kdown it was a perfectly placed combo by wilder, ali is often times even more careless then that. And eventually ali would have to stand still for a longer period of time, it would be so exhausting to fight such a tall fighter like wilder.
     
  12. RealDeal

    RealDeal Active Member Full Member

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    You’d have to favor Ali but Wilder still has the ability to beat anyone in the history of boxing if he lands a perfect right hand.
     
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  13. ertwin

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    Dude i dont even like wilder. What pisses me of is the stupid hate this guy gets and ridiculous underestimation. I was also thinking that he sucks and that he is going to get ko by the first living body he faces, buts lets face it the guy is simply 10x then we made him out to be. He even has a solid chin and will to fight as he showed in the ortiz fight and fury fight. He might be a technical catastrophy with his feet, but that right hand is just a sniper shot man.
     
  14. gerryb

    gerryb Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with you,Wilder is a champ for a reason. 99% of the keyboard warriors who talk smack about him wouldnt last a round in reality. He deserves respect. Just not sure if he beats Ali.
     
  15. ertwin

    ertwin Member Full Member

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    Dude fighter in the 70s would do the excat same thing, standing infront of each other and throw punches. The high tech fencing in hw you see nowadays often ala haye-wlad, or wilder-ortiz is something that startet in the 90 with lewis.
     


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