(1966) Muhammad Ali vs (2019) Deontay Wilder

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bluebird, Aug 9, 2019.


Who wins?

  1. Ali

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  2. Wildr

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  1. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    There are hardly americans that win the olympics ,there are hardly americns that are good pros. The soviet union was the olympic dominator since 70s to now but couldnt compete due to communism.
    And talking about good footwork when it comes to american fighters is the most ridiculous thing i have heard. A lot of them have very good handspeed and handmovment but footwork was always the problem with all american fighters and the reason why they get so destroyed by russian.
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why? The best fighters in history are American (and I'm not)
    Most EE footwork is slow and flat to save energy. It's good for a fighter like Wlad or Povetkin but it's definitely not better than Pep or Ali.
    Always get destroyed by Russians?
    Because Vitali didn't quit against Byrd
    Wlad wasn't KOed by Purity
    GGG wasn't beat by Canelo
    Kovelev beat by Ward
    Valuev wasn't ran insanely close by a 46 year old Holyfield

    As a country USA > Russia in boxing
    Wtf I shouldn't have to say that
     
  3. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    Oh my god...
    Vitali had an Injurie, thats like me saying ali sucks cause he lost to leon spinks who didnt even have 10 fights.
    In which universe is canelo american?
    Kovalev won the first fight and lost the gay ball busting rematch to ward.
    Valuev won crisp and clear.
    Wlad got koed against purity and brewster no doubt.

    Russians have very precise footwork that is way more fluent then americans. It is not a good sign of footwork when you could dance around like ali.
    I bet you never boxed in your life other then that you wouldnt write so much crap.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You could say that but I would have the reply Ali was past his prime with Parkinson's and won the rematch. Vitali was prime, never had a rematch and was fully fight ready.

    Other fighters have gone on injured. Haye went 6 rounds with Bellew with a split Achilles and Abraham fought for 8 rounds with a broken jaw. It can be done, Vitali just quit. And he was winning
    He's not. The same way that Vitali, Wlad, GGG, Lomachenko and Usyk aren't russian. It's for arguments sake.
    Nah he really didn't.
    Wrong.
     
  5. ertwin

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    Yeah wanna see you in the ring
     
  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Except Wilder doesnt have an average chin

    And Ali KOing an exhausted Foreman after rope a doping the whole fight... is a stretch


    But you stay wrapped up in your “ I love Mo Ali ❤️ “ bubble
     
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  7. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good thread,havent made up my mind due to the fact Wilder has a massive right hand
     
  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali had trouble with a left hand, not right. His style was always to slip away from the right hand
     
  9. George Crowcroft

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    I'd say it's worse than the average elite fighters
     
  10. BCS8

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    Sconiers says "hi" ;)
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That was my point.
     
  12. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Alì is a LEGEND , even if he hadn't a devastating punch with his speed, his superlative technique, his heart, his mind he fought and defeated most of the hardest punchers of the boxing hystory...Foreman, Frazier, Shavers, Lyle, Norton and others. He was magic... he was not only a boxer...he was the perfect fighter...he fought beyond the boxing...against racism... against Parkinson...Wilder is only an hard puncher...his technique is like Clubber Lang's one: left hook, right hook and again and again with some straight hand and some uppercut during his fights. His defence is poor. Ok, he's got a very heavy hand and a good chin but all this would not be enough to win against THE GREATEST. Maybe Tyson in his prime had more chances to win against Alì... but repeat Ali was MAGIC... would have beated everybody.
     
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  13. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    Man just stfu and go watch some rocky thinkin youre tough when in reality thats the biggest gay movie on planet earth.
     
  14. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    Is there any footage to that fight? Cause everybody keeps mentioning it and i never saw it.
     
  15. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Repeat Wilder's technique is poor!
     
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