1967 Muhammad Ali vs. 2007 Wladimir Klitschko

How many have watched the Henry Cooper fight? Ali was PLAYING with him, TOYING around with him not taking him seriously. Henry Cooper is not a strong argument, how old was Ali at the time? 19? 20? He was a kid having fun and trying to keep Cooper afloat until the 5th round so his prediction could come true. WAKE UP.

ALI KO 8th RD

 

Jeeeezzz....

 

No, when polls are done right by asking fair questions, they reflect quite a bit. You're losing a debate, such as the two that you lost to me, are not remedied by polls using the kind of dishonesty that a lying sack of **** like yourself often employs....

 

Well, if you saw the fight, then you would certainly see exactly how seriously Clay was taking Cooper, but since you don't judge fights by what you've actually viewed then I guess the point is rather moot Dr. Doolittle..

 

Klitschko, as he outweighs Cassius by 40 pounds or more. Cassius Clay was more of a cruiser really. Since Wlad is pretty fast, heavy handed, and being pretty athletic I think he would take this - maybe even by KO.

That said, Cassius Clay was better than Muhammed Ali was - at least to me.

 

Everyone should know that it is only the few whom are truely enlightened - not the many.

 

This whole thread ****ing disgusts me. Dane pugilist and 2smart4u are sub human.

 

When your over 200 pounds, weight doesnt really matter, but since you brought up weight, with todays advancements in nutrition, weight lifting, and supplements, Ali could easily come in around 225-230 all muscle, since he was 6-3. Wlad is mentally weak, with a glass chin, and lacks toughness, something Ali had an overabundance of. Ali would have an easy night ahead of him, and probably would have him out around the 8th round.

 

You are just a silly romanticist, that believe what you have read - **** off nub and start thinking for yourself...

 

I believe what i see and what i do. live the life then formulate opinions you silly little ****ing pretender. the **** you come out with is beyond a joke. Anyone who has fought and trained knows your ****ing stupidity. Ali-Wlad? the same Wlad who was dropped three times by nobodies? Bigger, stronger? where does this **** come from. Get down a gym, get in a ring and then you will realise you have no idea what you are talking about.100, 180, 220, a middlewight would knock Wlad out. Coopers left would knock Wlad out cold.:deal

 

As if I didn't know this already - this confirmed you have taken far too many blows to the head. Fear not - I will go easy on you from now on. Or better yet - return to Classic forum where you seemingly dwell.

 

as much as i think you are cute....ur totally insane!:nut ! Ali fought the best heavyweights of all time and Wlad got Ko'ed by brewster & dropped by sam peter 3 times...Ali would dance hexagons around Wlad.....Wlad has trouble with movement....did u not see the sultan fight?

 

Muhammad Ali was never genuinely stopped in his career. He had to resign in his corner after taking a 10 round thrashing from another all time great in his prime, who by the way came up learning from Ali himself. Ali was totally shot after taking two years off, coming back at age 38 and suffering from an illness.

Outside of that, Ali both survived and defeated some of the greatest punchers of all time in Foreman, Frazier, Liston and Shavers. He also likely defeated a longer list of ranked opponents than anyone since Joe Louis, and did it with a four year layoff dividing his career, and likely losing a large portion of his best years. He was a respectable size at 6'3", and during his prime weighed anywhere from 210-215, while still maintaining his claim to being the fastest heavyweight of all time. He could knock a guy out early, pound him to submission, or take him the distance over 15 rounds ( something Wlad has never done. )

His mental toughness was and still is unmatched. Intimidating Muhammad Ali was not an option. He fought some real monsters against great odds without losing an ounce of cofidence. Wlad would have no mental edge here, in fact its likely that he'd be intimidated by Ali's attitude and press conference tactics. Muhammad would be far busier during the fight than anyone Wlad's ever faced, and his relentless ability to keep coming after him would wear Wlad down.

I see a stoppage here.

 

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yeah i put undecided:yep

 

Ah yes, the old 'polls only mean something when the majority agree with me' line, just as I expected.

As for Magoo you haven't whooped his ass in a debate yet, you've been made to look dumb a couple of times and then misquoted him to start ******ed polls to save face. Still if that makes you feel good who am I to argue :good