1967 Muhammad Ali vs. 2007 Wladimir Klitschko

Yep, that's about the way it is. Hell I'd predict that outcome against Ali of 1974, never mind the 1967 version that was an absolute animal.

1967 Ali would stop WALD inside 6 rounds, 1974 version might take 10 rounds but it wouldn't be particularly competitive.

 

agreed. frazier can win and has a pretty good shot to score a late stoppage especially over 15 but wlad has excellent foot movement for his size. the ali frazier faced was pretty stationary.

also, wlad's power and weight could sytematically wear down frazier, two areas where wald was superior to ali. frazier looked prone to swelling and he'd no doubt eat his fair share of shots from glass-jawed wald. however, i might be short-changing frazier with regards to his movement. probably need to watch his foot movement a little more. bringing up sanders-wlad is relevant in terms of wlad's chin but i think he is much harder to hit. id expect a long fight either way. hard fight to predict.

Dr. Cottonhammer is not ****

 

How do you see a fight between a peak Tyson and Wlad playing out?

 

Ah the usual Klit-hugger moving the goalposts when called on his ignorance :nut

No I don't believe that cruiserweights always beat heavyweights, not at all. How is that relevent to this argument, we're talking heavyweights here, a 212-215 Ali against WALD. What did WALD weigh in the Sultan fight again? 238? If you think a 25lb difference would give a guy like WALD the edge over the best heavyweight to ever lace up the gloves then feel free to keep posting but don't blame me when I keep laughing at you.

 

lol! that's the absolute worst style matchup for Dr. Cottonhammer. Id say tyson tko 4-6

 

Probably a fair call.

A dominant Tyson around 1987-88 would intimidage Wlad. Klit wouldn't know how to handle his aggressiveness among other aspects.

 

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WALDS worst ****ing nightmare, that's how. It still amazes me that people talk about folks over-rating peak Tyson on here, in my opinion peak Tyson was under-rated as hell.

I love Ali but in Tysons reign you'd have guys that were 20-30lbs heavier and 6 inches taller beaten before they even got into the ****ing ring, and these were mentally tough boxers too. Put ANY version of WALD in Michael Spinks shoes back in 1988 and I swear the fight would have been over just as quickly. Going into the ring with a deficiant chin and mental/stamina problems would be a very ****ing bad idea against prime Tyson - just as it would with a prime Ali, only the pain would last longer against Ali.

 

Yeah, that's pretty much how I see it. I don't think it would be over with in 91 seconds, but I could pssoible see it ending in much the same way that Tyson-Bruno ended, only with Wlad showing less courage.

 

Just get it out of the way guys. You guys believe that every contender or Champion from 2000 down DESTROYS Wlad. We get it... move on with your lives.

 

Bruno was still on his feet, WALD wouldn't be :yep

Also watch the first 30 seconds of the Bruno fight, Tyson had Frank on the floor and looking in big trouble. Frank fought back and actually had Tyson on ***** st later in the same round with a big left hook (something Bruno had in his arsenal but has been forgotten....)

Would WALD have survived the initial onslaught? Chances are he wouldn't. I think Tyson, Foreman and Lewis would have taken WALD out early because they wouldn't have bothered trying to box him. Ali didn't have the explosive power those guys had but he was a far, far better boxer AND fighter than WALD so it would actually be a more embarrassing loss because it would be prolonged.

 

Not at all, there's several heavies from the past I'd pick WALDO to beat, just not the elite ones that's all.

Oh and several that weren't elite too, if we're being pedantic.

 

Any new material? Do you plan on sitting on this message board, explaining how the guys from the past would crush Wlad for the rest of your life? Isn't there anything else about this sport that interests you?

 

Wlad is not tough enough to hang in there with most ATG's, only smaller, less powerful ATG's Wlad would have a chance against IMO. Guy's like Patterson and Tunney, I would give him a 50/50 against Norten and Frazier though.

 

I suppose you're right,

Here goes a try at changing the subject. How about De La Hoya losing to Mosley? I felt the outcome was right on the level.

Great performance by Mosley, and a much earned decision.

 

Once a hugger, always a hugger eh Window?

Why don't you explain for all of us how you thought Oscar beat Mayweather, before you accuse others of bias? Or even re-count your Oscar V Sturm scorecards?

Once you've finished doing that you can start on my apparent obsession with WALDO, fair enough?