1967 Muhammad Ali vs. 2007 Wladimir Klitschko

Acute case of glasschinitis

 

The best part would be all the excuses and spin doctoring after boxing's sacred cow Clay gets battered.

 

Since we've established Jerry Quarry would beat all todays contenders its a shoe in Liston would do the same.

 

And when Wlad got beat by Ali he could always recycle the Vaseline on the legs excuse or say he was poisoned. :rofl

 

420 out of 620 for Ali huh

I have a strange feeling this voting is ''slightly'' biased...

 

I have a feeling that just how you want to imagine it because voting isn't going the way you want it to.

 

Byrd beat Vittles and he started his career 1lb over the super middleweight limit. Quarry is a better fighter than Byrd. Hence, Quarry of all of todays contenders. Same with Liston. Ali over everyone today. This is the truth and the poll reflects that. :hi:

 

You simply can't deal with the facts. Ali beats every fighter today. This era is full of out of shape tomato cans unwilling to fight one another. They lack skills and the lack heart...see Vittles quit to a super middleweight. And don't try to lie and rewrite history. Vits never complained about in injury till the end of the 8th. He was suckingvwind and being backed up by this. 5th. Quarry and Liston would have a field day against and fighter sheikh such a shameful display of heart against a super middleweight! :yep

 

Imagine what all time greats Frazier and Foreman would do today? Frazier bobbing and weaving under slow uneducated punches and Foreman walking through defenseless bums, it would be massacre after massacre. :yep

 

Vittles was not winning "easily". Mostvrounds were very close. In fact he quit because he himself thought he was losing. And I'm sorry my friend but you show you lack of boxing knowledge by calling Tyson a great inside fighter. Usually he'd throw two or three punches on the inside and than clinch. Tyson was a great mid ranged fighterwhen able to control a fight and apply pressure.

Oh, and Lewis had a superior outside game compared to Wlad. Klit just fights in a much, much weaker era.

 

Frazer litteraly destroys today slow and untalented bums. Imaging Frazier vs Fury? Tyson would get destroyed!

 

Fury was having difficulty and got dropped by Cunningham. Frazier would assassinate him. And Tyson was not an inside fighting expert for the reasons I already outlined. I love how its gotta be something nationalistic when people don't buy your bull****. I could never be because of the lack of skills I've outlined on several occasions or because the top fighter don't fight each other, could it? :huh

 

How can fighters have gotten better when they done have the same arsenal of weapons or simply don't use them? Your whole argument is based on size. We know for a fact size is far less important than skills because its been proven countless times. Most other weight classes still use many of the tools I've talked about. Heavyweights have regressed because they now think being big is the end all. To top that off people like yourself believe that because they are allowed to beat tomato cans much more than fighting top comp.

 

Yea and any other person that asks Tyson,in his prime vs X he always says X.

He has also said on multiple occasions "No one beats Ali"