1970s Muhammad Ali vs the super heavyweights?

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  1. john roberts

    john roberts Member Full Member

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    Well I have never seen so much scandalous agenda based drivel in all my life, firstly Ali is 6ft 3 https://images.app.goo.gl/sEyi3p8r2hYkhpfS8 or https://images.app.goo.gl/qthiRwhCcyTGgRVm6 here he is next to 6 ft 3 frank bruno, so only 2 inches shorter than your Lewis, bowes etc and 3 inches smaller than your Wlad, Joshua wilder types, only fury has 4 and half inches on him, here he is next to 6ft 7 Marius wach which is only an inch and half taller than terell .https://images.app.goo.gl/8ZTtRpcCN4howeiZ6 no where near 6ft 9. now as far as Ali weight is concerned he weighed 210lbs for Liston just aged 22 no fat on him whatsoever, having never touched a weight just natural, so as far as Usyk being bigger than Ali, is ridiculous Usyk been training with weights and supplements all is career into his thirties when you naturally put weight on and still hasn’t come in over 215lbs yet, Ali probably had a big Sh—t before the weigh in in 64 or he probably would have weighed the same Lol. also Ali fought between 210-230 through his career moving up and down in weight with ease depending on the opponent. As far as Ali in the clinches with these guys I don’t think any of the super heavyweights are as strong as George foreman and if they are it negligible and Ali held his own with George, he also had no trouble clinching with 6ft3 -260lb Mathis,who is basically your Dillian whyte, kowanaki, Ruiz type height build fighter, in other words your modern overweight fighter. Now as far as Henry cooper, it was Ali 19th pro fight and was clowning and taking him lightly and paid the price, but put in right straight away, the other left hook of note was after 13 into the 14th round of a gruelling fight after 4 years out of the ring which attributed to his stamina and tiredness which saw him get hit by one of the all time greats swarmer fighters and left hookers and he was still straight back up. None of the supers have a great left hook as such so doubtful they would land clean, and Ali never had trouble with right hands, in the 60s doubtful any of those fighters beat Ali, too much speed difference, between 70-73 still don’t see him losing , after that then he could lose but not down to height , strength or weight, more losing a step on his hand and foot speed.
     
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  2. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    people like him show how overrated ali is he was great but wouldnt be the number 1 skilled guy in other eras like he was in his time
     
  3. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    What if you gave Ali the same nutrition, decades of greater level of training etc, machines, supplements.

    The others have an unfair advantage because of 4-5 decades of greater stuff at their disposal.
     
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  4. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    Then he wouldn't be Ali.
    That is the point.
     
  5. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    I understand, so I don't see why we should do these "who would wins" because it's like comparing football teams now to football teams 50 years ago.

    But I don't agree that it "wouldn't be ali", because it would be the same person but with better tools, equipment and trainers.
     
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  6. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    Tell that to the fans in Classic section. They think Ali as he was beats anyone in history.
     
  7. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    he loses to mutiple people George was trash and ali had to lay on ropes a person who moves good with good punch tech beats ali or ends him
     
  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Imagine Ali trying to clinch Fury

    lol