1973 Foreman vs 1988 Tyson

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After reading the thread I'm going to give my 2 cents. As someone said this could be a pick 'em fight cause there really isn't a right answer. But I've heard comments I think are flat out wrong. For example I think any comparison whatsoever to the Ali-Foreman fight is a waste of time. Ali fights nothing like Tyson, and Ali impossed a unique style that makes any comparisons immaterial.

Best way to look at this I think is to say how would have Tyson done against Foreman if he were in the ring with him instead of Frazier in there first fight. Tyson's faster than Frazier, and he's faster than Foreman. He threw combinations which is how he hurt his opponents. Foreman certain was the stronger of the two (Tyson) and he had a lot more one punch power. What I think would give Tyson trouble was that Foreman was never a head hunter, rather he used a right upper cut type of punch to land to the body, and given his power it was an extremely effective punch. In fact I have to think that if Tyson were to get hit with this punch, more than once, he might very well have second thoughts about trying to attack Foreman. So I think Tyson would be winning up until that punch landed and then I think Foreman would start to take over.

So to me the question becomes could Tyson knock Foreman out before getting hit with that punch? and I think the answer is no.

 

Exactly, Foreman's body shots in both stages of his career were sickening, he made thuds like he was hitting a tree. I can remember Holyfield hurting Tyson with a body shot in their first fight, George's body shots would stop Tyson in his tracks.

 

Well after just watching the Foreman - Cooney I have to agree. Prior to the fight he was 64-2 with 60 KO's. If that's not an indication of extreme power I don't know what is.

The main problem Tyson would have, and it's not really his fault, is that he's the less powerful of the two, a role he never had to play before.

Is he quicker, you bet he is, but Tyson would in effect be in a position of trying to out punch a puncher, and on that level I don't think anyone can beat George power for power.

You can out box him, maybe out smart him, but you can't trade with him and hope to win.

 

Foreman didn't have more one-punch power, as is confirmed by near lack of one-punch KO's against still fresh opponents.

 

Did then Lewis have one-punch KO power? Cause he has very few one-punch KO's over fresh opponents (Hasim Rahman, who else?)

Yes, both Foreman and Lewis have one-punch KO power.

 

I just watched the Foreman - Cooney fight which ended in the second round, I would invite you to do the same and then tell me that.

Did you see the Moorer fight, it was definately a one-punch knock out, so I really don't know what the hell you're talking about.

I don't think you're going to get far if you're suggesting Foreman didn't have one punch power that's not really a winnable argument.

 

Near lack, as in out of several dozens of Foreman fights available on video (most of which didn't go the full distance), you can find maybe two or three fights where he didn't first weaken an opponent by landing multiple clean punches before being able to finish them with one punch. Power = mass * speed. He was seriously lacking in speed (which also didn't allow his punches to be surprising for his opponents).

 

You're entitled to your opinon but I think most would disagree. If that were the case he shouldn't have dropped Moorer so easily if there wasn't any power in what landed, instead Moorer when down like he was shot from a punch I thought was fairly harmless until I seen it's affects.

 

You can even expand my statement by one-punch KD's vs still fresh opponents. Foreman didn't have more one-punch power than Tyson.

 

I just watched the Foreman - Moorer fight and I can say is you're delussional. Foreman wasn't the quickest fighter to ever step in the ring, but as far as power goes, he has few equals, and Tyson wasn't one of them. In fact I'd go so far as to say this is rather a stupid comment. Tyson's power was based on speed and combinations, meaning the damage was done by the punches a fighter never seen coming. But as far a pure one punch power goes, it's not even a contest. Foreman had far more one punch power.

 

Moorer is included in those "two or three". If you can't read, scroll back and try again.

 

realistically talking this fight would not be a walk in the park for any men, simply i pick foreman

 

so you are using the version of foreman who fought moorer to make a point about his speed in his prime? :rofl

 

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