1973 Foreman vs 1988 Tyson

Comprehension skills are obviously not your strong suite. My comment was based on a comment make about Foreman's lack of one punch power.

 

Exactly where? I read the comments of the day and they didn't seem to include any exceptions at least not specifically.

 

Who said Foreman was lacking one-punch power? If somebody said that then the forum is finished indeed.

 

This pretty much says the same thing. You're a bit strange as you don't seem to have the capacity to stick to a particular argument and then defend it to it's logical conclusion. Maybe it's a language barrier

 

The 1st quoted statement ends with "finish them with one punch". What are you talking about?

 

i know your point... but still... bad example of his speed, he was an old fat man, you should not mention it

 

I never even mentioned speed, rather it was an example of his one punch KO power. I don't really know where this whole speed thing is coming from since I long ago gave that edge to Tyson even in Foreman's prime, let alone past prime.

 

You say this as if Foreman ever beat a fighter comparable to prime Tyson, which never happened. I see that Foreman fans constantly use this line, as if Foreman beat a bunch of guys just like Tyson, so there's no question that he had the "perfect style" to beat Tyson. I'm not buying what you're selling.

Tyson's hand speed and Foreman's defensive deficiencies spell trouble for Foreman. I'm not buying the line about Foreman shoving Tyson into range just like did Frazier. Tyson wouldn't be so easy to push around. I see Foreman eating flush bombs early. In the first Foreman-Frazier fight, Frazier lands a flush left hook very early, Foreman takes it well. I suspect that if Tyson had landed that left hook, Foreman wouldn't take it so well.

 

Yes, you said Foreman never had the capacity to finish off fighters with one punch, the Moore fight and the Cooney fight both proved you wrong. What the hell is you're defination of "one punch" the first punch of the fight? to me it's throwing one punch and dropping an opponent.

 

I said out of all Foreman's fights that are available on video you can find maybe two or three, maybe four examples where he knocked out an opponent, who was still fresh, with one punch. Note the words "still fresh", as in not tired by going many rounds, and not weakened by previous punches landed by Foreman, usually shortly before the KO, sometimes by battering them regularly during the previous rounds. KO-ing a fighter who's fresh and strong with one punch is very different from KO'ing an opponent who you previously landed a dozen clean, hard punches on. What's worse, even if you start counting one-punch knockdowns scored by Foreman vs still fresh opponents, the list doesn't grow by more than a couple more bouts, Frazier bout included.

 

What sort of reply do you expect? Of the 60+ Ko's on Foreman's record most are near the beginning of the fight. Same as all fighters, they get most of their KO's when they have the power, as time goes on they get less KO's as they generally lose power as the rounds progress. This has been the pattern from day one. The bottom line is he has a KO % of about 84% which includes his losses. He winning record of ending fights by KO is 89%. so I really don't know what point you're trying to make?

Whatever it is, it's wrong. If I review fights that he had KO's in the first 3 round I get to about 45 of them so I have no idea what your point is or where your coming from in terms of refuting the obvious, which is Foreman had devastating power.

To add to that when he fought Moorer he showed that power could extend beyond for the first 4-5 round and he landed a punch that dropped Moorer like he'd been shot, proving he could take power into the later rounds which to me is even more impressive.

 

and you did mention the speed of foreman

 

Okay, I'll bite, what post was that, they're all numbered, so please reference it for me.

 

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You're truly stupid. I said Foreman wasn't faster than Tyson and what you're trying to prove is anyone's guess. I don't expect people on this forum to be university educated, but my god is it asking to much to have some kind of basic logic skills? Apparently so.

So just to clarify, I never said Foreman was a speed merchant, and I certainly never used post prime Foreman in his come back to demonstrate the same. But as far as power goes, that's a different story.