1974 George Foreman vs 2017 Anthony Joshua: Does Foreman make it to the finish line

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  1. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Young knew defensive boxing. AJ has a glass chin and is far removed from a defensive genius as was Young.
     
  2. GordonGarner65

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    Well Big George had all these qualities I guess when he fought Lyle and Young ?
    All I'm saying is , if he had his troubles against those guys I think he has his hands full against Josh.
     
  3. 70sFan865

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    Yes he had and Young is far different fighter than Joshua. I can't say that Lyle is worse than Ruiz to be honest and Foreman actually got up, fought back and won the fight.

    I'm not saying that Foreman would destroy Joshua. Far from it, AJ is very goos fighter who would be tough to beat by anyone.
     
  4. moneytheman12

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    no George loses defense bad and to slow
     
  5. Moonlight

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    Bodybuilder has 2x punch power of Lyle. Foreman had serious problems with big punchers. He was slow and had terrible stamina. Bodybuilder by TKO.
     
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  6. mr. magoo

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    He had the power to knockout Joshua and very well might have. But the same could be said in return. In order to win this fight George would have to end it early. The longer this goes the more Joshua’s chances increase. Another point to consider is that Joshua would be one of the few or only fighters in George’s time whom he couldn’t push back or control in the clinches due to his size and strength
     
  7. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually wince thinking about this dream match. Joshua will land some mighty blows but I just can't see Foreman being anything but possibly knocked down once. I kind of doubt Joshua hit much harder than Lyle...if at all. In fact, I doubt it.

    The end for Joshua would be very ugly and far more final than against Ruiz I. He might make it into the fifth round, but I wouldn't bet on it.
     
  8. NoNeck

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    It could go either way. Joshua is chinnier but can do 12 rounds whereas Foreman couldn’t. He also is bigger than the guys who Foreman imposed his will on.
     
  9. moneytheman12

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    facts the match I always look at ron had him in danger from 1st round close to end from a right and George wss hurt every round after
     
  10. moneytheman12

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    wrong only can go ant winning and George couldn't go that long without looking tired so it means nothing
     
  11. moneytheman12

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    so George beats this man who picks good hits with alot of power and uses good angles to punch

    better then jim and way better then Ali did at the time of fighting George how does George win being slow and easy to read and basic bunch of idiots stuck in time like always wake up

    George can either be picked from a counter or comboed to a ko

    young George needs his improvements from his old age
     
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  12. Rollin

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    Lyle fight being used as a proof of Joshua being able to knock down Foreman is seems wrong.

    Bar the Toronto Five it was his first fight since Zaire (Foreman-Ali 1974-10-30; Foreman-Lyle 1976-01-24) which means a year of inactivity, brooding, and self-loathing, not to mention spending an unreasonable amount of money. Anybody who carefully watched George's career can see just how sloppy, off, and ineffectual he appears to be when compared to his best pre-Ali fights. There is also the matter of changed trainer and style: going from Sandy Saddler-esque terminator to more of a boxer puncher Gil Clancy attempted to turn him into won't happen in a year and it sure as hell ain't safe when going against one of the top contenders (Ron ranked #5 in annual Ring rating.) Granted, it could actually turn George into a much more complete fighter somewhere down the road when the two styles could merge organically. He was twenty eight when he retired his best years were arguably yet to come.

    The myth that Foreman was slow and easy to hit comes precisely from the post-Zaire period of time when he could be inconsistent and sub-par at times. At his best he displayed an impressive burst of speed and great reflexes. He did not block punches passively: he used stops, muffles, parries, leverage guards, brush downs and other techniques which complimented Saddlers long guard. That requires coordination and fast hands. The very basis of this style dictates that the extended rear hand helps at intercepting opponent's entries and attacks, effectively "choking" his offense and allowing for clinches and more direct confrontation a collision of two opposing forces if you will. But to do so you need to read your opponent or react fast enough which Foreman at his best could do very well.
     
  13. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Foreman by a knockout. Most likely a TKO. George's onslaught and intensity would run most typical male models out of the ring. Ofcourse I'm assuming Joshua gets in the ring.
     
  14. Entaowed

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    At first I wondered if this was a joke.
    Lyle was the only puncher he had trouble with-after a looong hiatus from the ring & the debacle with Ali.
    But what is especially problematic is you say Joshua hit twice as hard as Lyle.
    Who hit linke a truck: I would be surprised if AJ hit as hard, but if I am wrong to think he hit cvastly hardder than Lyle is...Insane.

    Also his stamina was not "terrible", that is an overstatement. AJ almost gassed out & you know which fights, including his last one.
     
  15. CleneloAnavarez

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    He can fight Foreman at a much more sedate pace. Foreman, unlike Usyk, is a relatively simple fighter against who Joshua and his team can execute a methodical gameplan.
     
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