1974 Roberto Hands Of Stone Duran vs Devin Haney at 135 lbs, 15 rounds.

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  1. slash

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    abso****inglutely Haney would get mauled. Bodied. Haney was out of sorts after whatever round it was, 8th? And Loma only throws head shots. Duran would answer body back twofold. He would be on that faster than **** through a goose.

    Thanks. I will watch Duran-Lampkin now.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

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    When you do, keep in mind Ray Lampkin was about 15 pounds lighter than Haney is when Haney (the weight bully) steps in the ring. And Duran wasn't a tremendous puncher against welters.

    Keep in mind Lampkin was an even lighter puncher than Haney is.

    And keep in mind Ray Lampkin, when compared to Haney's record of challengers (Loma, Kabosos twice, Joseph Diaz, Gamboa, Linares), beat absolutely nobody.

    Still, he went 14 rounds with Duran, and people act like it was a huge deal Duran knocked him out.

    Lampkin would've been Haney's worst challenger.

    Just the facts.
     
  3. greynotsoold

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    You have to put this in perspective.
    If Haney weighed in on the same day- like Duran did when he was a lightweight- he would pass out right after the 2nd round.
    If you let Haney weigh in 36 hours before the fight, then compare him to the Duran that fought Moore, Barkley or Duran.
     
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  4. Dubblechin

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    Then he isn't 1974 Duran. He's Duran a decade or more later.

    I don't seem to recall people doing this when comparing other lighter weight boxers today against fighters back then.

    1974 Duran was a lightweight. He weighed in the day of the fight. Haney is the current Lightweight champ but nobody today has official weigh ins the same day.
     
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  5. greynotsoold

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    I try to make the point all the time.
    The lightweights (welters, middles, etc...) of today are at least 2 or 3 weight classes bigger than the lightweights (welters, middles, etc...) of 35 or more years ago.
    The bull**** with weigh ins being whenever it is convenient has ruined boxing. These fantasy fights are mental masturbation.
     
  6. slash

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    Haney looks better than Lampkin, who looks somewhat limited.


    Duran KO Haney
     
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  7. Richard M Murrieta

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    I am 100 percent on board with you buddy.
     
  8. Man_Machine

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    The best one can say then is that, pound-for-pound, Duran leaves Haney in the dust and that, putting the "1974" condition to one side a moment, we might speculate, if they were to actually weigh-in on the same-day within, say, the light middleweight limit, Duran would beat the ever-living **** out of Haney.


    Yeah - it is one of a few things that have helped turn some boxing matches into circus acts, albeit I dare say there were contractual weight shenanigans back in the day, as well.


    Or flagellation, perhaps - depending on how seriously one takes them.
     
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  9. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    No, It is not a mental case of Mother Thumb and the Four Daughters but a fantasy match up, Duran wins without a doubt.
     
  10. Man_Machine

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    That's the great thing about fantasies. They can be dreamt up in a world without doubt.
     
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  11. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    True. But imagine those brutal body shots by Duran on Haney. Ouch !
     
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  12. Man_Machine

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    In all honesty, I think Duran would batter Haney anyway. The latter hasn't done much to inspire a bet on him from me and I find it difficult to see what all the fuss is about.
     
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  13. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Without mentioning any names, one poster posted to me that Haney would bully Duran, I did not agree with his assessment of that, he also pointed out that Duran struggled to beat his lightweight opponents, I disagree. Duran hurt himself by moving up, he did not take his punch with him otherwise he would have had more knockouts at the higher weights.
     
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