1975 Ring Magazine's 'All-Time Heavyweight Top 10'

Tyson states in his latest documentary something like "It's one thing to be the heavyweight champ, but it's something totally different to be a special heavyweight champ."

 

I remember around that time,The Ring had a fantasy fight between Ali and Jack Johnson. Muhammad was knocked out in the fourth round ! :huh:huh

 

Same is happening to Tyson (and to a lesser degree Lewis) at the moment. Good observation :good

 

I would like to see the other divisions, please.

 

This is what I try to point out when people say Jack Dempsey doesn't belong in the top 5. Until the guys who saw him started dying off, he was considered on a par with Louis. Dempsey is, imo, extremely underrated today.

 

Marciano is really the only fighter that belongs at his spot (Excluding Louis). The Rock really hasn't shifted in many places. That 49-0 regardless of what weaknesses really has a strong hold.

 

Jack Johnson generally stays about the same spot as he is in most of the lists. His ranking is close to corect.

I dont see how Frazier is much different either, although it is strange to see him retain his spot at this stage, considering Foreman had already beaten him but ranks lower than him.

James Jeffries suffers from the same problem as Dempsey, and he would have been already feeling it fully by this time. His ranking is close to correct.

Tunneys ranking, i suspect, took a massive dive when Tyson KOd spinks in a round, because their carreers were very similar.

Fitzsimmons is an interesting case. I suspect the Dempsey (fans died out) factor had already nosedived his ranking by this stage. And it has dropped further now, due to the film factor and also the Modern evolution factor. Still though, if an equal middleweight is ever born that comes through the modern ranks and KOs modern superheavys at the middleweight limit, he would skyrocket back inside the top 10 and maybe the top 5, imo.

 

Johnson dropped 5 spots from the first to last list.

I was thinking in terms of the general top 10 rankings.

I think his lack of longevity as a HW, toppled with the fact that other Cruiser/LHW moved up and did more as Heavyweights killed Tunney's ranking.

 

Which list is the last list? I was just going off that 1975 list.

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I think so too, but the dieing out must have really hurt his legacy because: Most of his best work and that of his opponents was not caught on film, and also because the short nature of his reign meant that he was going to rely on those who actually seen him fight much more. I tend to think that Tyson's legacy will suffer like this in the future, quite a bit and it would have been worse if film quality wasnt so advanced.

 

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/Division-By-Division_-_The_Greatest_Fighters_of_All-Time

Good point, too.

 

In 1975, Sugar Ray Robinson was not rated in the top 10 as a welterweight :admin.

But he made the middleweight list:admin

Who wrote those lists?

 

Yeah lol... crazy stuff.