1978 Roberto Duran vs 2003 Floyd Mayweather jr. 15 rds @ 135

Regardless of which opponent you rank higher, Floyd's destruction of Corrales is obviously favorable to whatever Duran did with DeJesus.

 

I guess what someone likes is in the eye of the beholder, because I really don't enjoy watching fights where one guy pitter-patters and runs and then runs enough to get the decision.

To me that's not even boxing, or more specifically anything I'd particularly want to watch. Glad you find this type of fighting so entertaining, guess it explains why you're such a Floyd fan.

 

I just finished watching this fight after not seeing it for several years and I forgot how bad Corrales actually was. He barely ever jabbed, and was totally inactive, landing 3 punches in the second round.

All Foremen and Lampley keep saying was that Corrales wasn't throwing any punches, wasn't jabbing and that he was looking for one punch. Hell I think Duran and De Jesus threw more punches in the first 3 round then these two threw in the entire fight.

I guarantee this wouldn't resemble any fight between Floyd and Duran in the slightest because Duran wouldn't give a **** if Floyd hit him or not, he's coming forward and he's throwing combinations with bad intentions and he's not stopping.

 

Someone mentioned Ken Buchanan earlier, who was an excellent highly skillful boxer, and truth be told possibly a better " boxer " than Duran. It was the fact that Duran didn't give him a seconds rest from the first bell until the end that did for Ken in their fight, NOT the low blow. Duran was just relentless, and that is what would do for Mayweather as well. At Lightweight he was strong enough to force the other guy to fight every second of every round.

 

The only time Durans arm length cost him was against hearns

Floyd is obviously no hearns

And no Leonard for that matter

Duran gets in vs Floyd because Floyd doesn't discourage him like a hearns piston jab could or a Leonard furry could

 

Corrales was going through a messy situation with his wife

Ironically Floyd used this wife beating allegation as a psychological mind game ( yeah really, Floyd did that )

Corrales looked shot

And also drained like a zombie all night

I rate Floyd's win as good as wards win over Dawson

 

Corrales miraculously fought on for quite awhile at 130 and looked like a beast. Funny how those things work.

 

Rather than just spew factoids, why don't you watch the 2nd or 3rd fight between De Jesus and Duran and this fight and see the difference for yourself.

Corrales clearly doesn't belong in the ring with these 3 fighters.

He has no jab, no defense, and against Floyd no offense. The last point might be boxer specific but there's no excuse for not jabbing or having any kind of defense to speak of.

 

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxingchronicle/articles_floyddiego.html

Diego Corrales looked dead at 130 lbs. He failed to make weight on his first attempt, scaling two pounds over the junior lightweight limit. An hour later, after some downtime in a sauna, Corrales made the weigh

 

Corrales isn't the only guy who Floyd did that to. I don't believe Diego was a beast at 130 before and after fighting Floyd but couldn't show up for the biggest fight of his career.

Did you see what Marquez looked like? How about Canelo? Did you see Mosley stop trying to win after two rounds? Did you see Gatti look like he shouldn't have been licensed? It's a strange coincidence that these guys can't get it together on fight-night when Floyd is there.

 

No one is saying Floyd's not a great boxer he clearly is, but this level of comp really isn't anything to brag about.

These guys clearly aren't on the same level as SRL or Hagler.

Marquez is a great fighter but he was forced to fight over his best weight, and some fighters can make the leap into higher divisions and some can't. He couldn't and fought with a huge size disadvantage. Mosley was clearly past his prime, and I think I prime Mosley would give Floyd a damn good fight. Gatti was always a brawler with a heart that exceeded his skills when he reached the top.

One things for damn sure, none of them fought like a prime Duran at 135. Watch the 2nd De Jesus fight and listen to the praise of Ferdie Pacheco, he was comparing Duran to SRR, Ali, and other greats and saying Duran belonged in their category and fought with an intensity that exceeded them all, and this was when he was 20 years old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCf7Zd2X_qI

 

I see the protect Duran police are out in full force. Sorry guys, Duran is a little over rated. I'll stand on he didn't face great competition at light weight. I say this after watching his fights.

Duran had a very short reach and was more of an attrition type of knock out artists. He's not taking Mayweather out with one punch. He's getting out boxed here

Duran owns the dubious distinction of being knocked out early by one punch and quitting in the ring without a serious injury.

Mayweather can be just as frustrating as Leonard was.

 

To be honest Mendoza your opinion on this forum should now be void for having the opinion Castillo and Corrales are better than any lightweight Duran faced. You called the masterful boxer Ken Buchanan ''decent'' a fighter ranked greater than Castillo as a lightweight and ranks even greater h2h as he was so brilliant and tough.
De Jesus was a brilliant lightweight competing in a tougher era than Castillo did. He fought Duran 3 times ffs a guy considered by many a Historian as the greatest lightweight of all time, the best fighter of the 70's when Ali was around and a top 5 to 10 ATG.
Castillo's claim to fame is the upset win vs Steve Johnson and having a good title run against decent comp before losing his title most think unfairly to the overrated ATG FMJ. He's also famed for his two exciting title fights vs Corrales who has a very good record on paper but he never really beat a great fighter. At least Castillo nearly did.

You also called Marcel a blown up featherweight when he fought Duran atsch. Marcel fought at feather most of if not all his prime career, having about 6 featherweight world title fights, outpointing prime Alexis Arguello in his last ever world title fight. Both Marcel and Duran started boxing at bantam. Duran had only been a pro for 1 or 2 years (17) fights when he faced Marcel at 18/19 years old. Marcel on the other hand had about 25 odd fights and was in his early 20's when he faced Duran. After Marcel won the Panamanian bantam title he fought a mix of feathers, super feathers and even a lightweight before he fought Duran. Even though Duran would prime as a natural lightweight he was basically a skinny kid when he fought Marcel. Marcel was the far more mature and experienced featherweight at the time. Marcel was a better boxer than any boxer Floyd faced up to lightweight and maybe even beyond. If Floyd beat a fighter of the calibre of Marcel at such a young age the *****'s would jizz their pants over it at every given opportunity. Durans win vs Marcel is hardly ever mentioned because he has such a deep resume.

 

I've lost all respect for you.

You made some dubious claims you can't remotely defend and this is your response?

This is just Duran hate. Yeah, while past his best and fighting over 20 lbs above his prime weight, he got knocked out by a prime all time great puncher with a 6 inch height advantage, and 14 inch wing span advantage. What a loser. :roll:

Let's see Money May get in the ring with not even GGG but a monster like Kovalev and see how well he does.

 

There is no love loss between us, but even we can agree that Ken Buchanan was an excellent fighter and high skilled. Calling him just "decent" is absurd and ignorant.