1980 Larry Holmes vs the best version of Deontay Wilder

This. Deontay tended to pitch at least as wildly as Shavers. He could score a kd, but Holmes would have done his usual and roared back for a stoppage it might last into the 11th round.

 

I didn't say "the best chin", but "one of the best chin".
Someone who is the reigning champion, certainly has no weak opponents, and in 75 pro fights has been knocked out ONCE since 1988 by Mike Tyson!
Opponents were: Norton, Shavers, Mercer, Weaver, Smith, McCall, Holyfield, Berbick, Cooney, Witherspoon, Spinks,...
That's "one of the best chin" for me, not "above average chin".

Like against Shavers

 

Weaver was a big puncher.

Witherspoon was a big puncher.

Cooney was a huge puncher with good finishing capabilities.

Wilder's one trick right hand is no better than Witherspoon's powerful overhand right which Holmes survived, plus Witherspoon is alot more skillful than Wilder.

Wilder could possibly drop Holmes who could be hit with right hands, but he doesn't possess the overall skillset to finish him. Wilder is no Mike Tyson regarding finishing abilities, combination punching, handspeed, etc. Plus Holmes was 38 years old at the time.

 

Holmes is historically elite. Wilder is not. Mid-point KO. Case closed.

 

Well, 1980 Larry Holmes sure as hell isn't stopping Wilder.

Deontay Wilder isn't going to walk in with his gloves over his face and let Larry land a thousand punches at his his head. Wilder doesn't fight like that.

In 1980, Larry fought Lorenzo Zanon, Leroy Jones, Scott Ledoux and the corpse of Muhammad Ali. Against that clunky mess of challengers, Holmes didn't look impressive really at all against a pretty bad assortment who mostly just stood right in front of him.

And all Holmes could do was just jab. Jab. Jab. Right hand. Jab. Jab. Jab. Right hand. Jab. Jab. Jab. Right uppercut. Jab. The corpse of Ali went nowhere. Leroy Jones was never staggered and just stood there and ate everything Larry threw. Ledoux went down with a thumb, but got right up furious about the foul.

1980 was also the year boxing fans thought Holmes "lost his movement." In his earlier years, Larry, on occasion, would dance and move around the ring, throwing his jab. 1980 was the year he became more of a flatfooted agressive boxer/puncher.

I think Wilder from 2018 knocks out Larry Holmes from 1980.

Wilder in 2018 and Holmes in 1980 were roughly the same weight. Wilder was much taller. He also maintained his distance until he attacked, and he was very good about closing a wide gap in a matter of a second or two. There wouldn't be a lot of landing with the taller, longer Wilder at a distance.

Like I said earlier, Wilder didn't walk in with his gloves up and just stand there taking shots all night like Holmes' opponents that year.

Ortiz and Fury were also very good boxers in 2018, both with dominant jabs (Ortiz from the southpaw side, Fury switch hitting). Both were also arguably more elusive than the very stationary, straight forward 1980 Holmes, too. Fury in particularly, was hard to hit flush then.

And Wilder not only kept pace with all of them round after round, but they (Ortiz and Fury) didn't land a whole lot, and Wilder still dropped them a combined five times in those two outings while successfully defending his title.

1980 Holmes wasn't Larry at his best. I'd say 1978 Larry Holmes was.

In 2018, Wilder was already 32/33, but he kind of put it all together that year against two very dangerous guys.

2018 Wilder would've wiped out everyone Holmes fought in 1980. I don't even know if 1980 Holmes who fought Ledoux gets past 2018 Luis Ortiz and 2018 Tyson Fury, let alone Wilder.

Leroy Jones and Scott Ledoux weren't Luis Ortiz or Tyson Fury, after all.

2018 Wilder wipes out 1980 Larry with the lazer right.

Wilder by KO.

 

Larry would clown him more than Roy did to Pazienza. And it would look like what Larry did to Marvis if Larry wanted it that way as well.
I mean you would have to say that 99 times out of 100 , Wilder has a puncher's chance because he has such a big monster right power shot. But here is the 1 time you cant even say he has a puncher's chance, because he cant fight.

 

Good to see you old mate!

 

Your powers of deduction are incredibly sharp.

 

If you ran this scenario 100 times, then Holmes would win 100 times.

 

Holmes beat two guys with power equal too or greater then Wilder, Shavers who hit Holmes with possibly the best punch ever thrown at anyone. It did damage but it wasn’t enough to win. Then Cooney who was basically Wilder but better in everything other then Chin, almost identical proportions and he came up short.

 

This … Larry Holmes was IMO the third greatest heavyweight boxer ever born of a woman. Wilder is maybe Top 40 if you squint your eyes. He’s not in the same zip code as Holmes.

 

Thanks mate i finished my studying and i'm starting my new job soon.

 

A sincere congratulations mate - well done!

 

Be like Cooney all over again. Maybe earlier