1980's Heavyweights Rank 1 to 5

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  1. markclitheroe

    markclitheroe TyrellBiggsnumberonefan. Full Member

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    On a similar line to the recent popular 90's thread...
    Might not be as straightforward and may well produce a fair bit of debate...
    TOP 5 ONLY....with reasons....and honourable mentions to those who just miss...
     
  2. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If disregarding everything that happened past 1989 and to a lesser degree pre 1980 :


    James Smith
    Tony Tucker
    Abdul Gerardo Aziz
    Pinklon Thomas
    Tim Witherspoon



    James Smith
    No one in history faced and beat such a list of punchers:
    Tim Witherspoon, David Bey, Frank Bruno, Mike Weaver.
    Over his entire career the list is even longer.
    He also lasted 12 with prime Abdul Aziz.
    And then, also fought Tubbs, Holmes, Witherspoon (over the distance) , Jose Ribalta, Jesse Fegusson.
    I never see any appreciation to the depth of his record.


    Tony Tucker
    lasted 12 against prime Abdul Aziz, without going down and without cheating (anyway I believe everything is legal against a serial criminal cheater).
    Stopped James Douglas, a very dangerous contender.
    outpointed James Broad



    Abdul Aziz
    cheating heavily (elbows, wrist locks, armlocks, headbutts, punching during brakes and after the bells, initiating lots of clinches ) in most of his important fights, it must be taken as a factor that takes away a lot from the value of his wins.
    It contributed to his longevity, intimidation factor, marketability and of course to the bottom line for the dummies each time.



    Pinklon Thomas
    Very durable fighter except against Tyson, but I doubt if the alternative here (Witherspoon) would have done any better
    Tubbs did worse, and Thomas outdid Tyson vs Tillis

    Tim Witherspoon
    Is usually remembered for winning by MDs and SDs, but also stopped
    James Broad, James Tillis, Mark Wills*2
    and his list of MD and SD wins is impressive and long in itself.

    edit: since I have seen lists longer than 5 items here and am usually generous with my lists here I go :

    James Smith
    Tony Tucker
    Abdul Aziz
    Pinklon Thomas
    Tim Witherspoon


    James Douglas
    Mitchel Green
    Lawrence Holmes
    Frank Bruno
    Trevor Berbick

    Tyrell Biggs
    David Bey
    Renaldo Snipes
    Michael Spinks
    Carl Williams


    Mark Wills
    Tony Tubbs
    Greg Page
    James Tillis
    Dee Collier


    Mike Williams
    Mike White
    Gerrie Coetzee
    Michael Dokes
    James Tillis
     
  3. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Are we supposed to be impressed that you care about tyson's Islamic name?
     
  4. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Holmes did some of his best work in the '70's, but how is he not #2 behind Tyson? The HW champion for years, # & quality of victories, & deserved the 2nd Spinks fight.
     
  5. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes
    Tyson
    Witherspoon
    Thomas
    Dokes
     
  6. markclitheroe

    markclitheroe TyrellBiggsnumberonefan. Full Member

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    Frankenfrank....
    Very imaginative as usual.
    I can safely say you are likely to be the only guy who has Bonecrusher as number 1.
    Smith does have some good peaks but he had too many loses to guys a great fighter should be winning.
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    1. Pinklon Thomas
    2. Tim Witherspoon
    3. Larry Holmes
    4. Mike Tyson
    5. Mike Weaver
     
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Tyson smashed two of those guys and would of smashed the other two easier.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    They were past their best.
     
  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Larry at his best was in the late 70's . No version of Weaver beats Tyson.

    Larry was blown out so one sided in 88 , he leaves it leaves little doubt he could win when he was at his best. Wrong style for Mike
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    While I rank Larry Holmes higher than Mike Tyson all time, I have Tyson at #1 in the 80's and Holmes at #2. My reasoning stems from the fact that Tyson unified the titles, became the youngest heavyweight champ of all time, had some more decisive performances and left the decade unbeaten. Holmes had a great run as champ, but did nothing of significant note in the 80's, got some iffy decision wins and was even stripped of a title at one point for failure to face a mandatory.. My top five goes as follows.

    1. Mike Tyson
    2. Larry Holmes
    3. Tim Witherspoon
    4. Mike Weaver
    5. Trevor Berbick

    *NOTE* - While Michael Spinks and Evander Holyfield deserve some mention, I can't give them a high rating due to their low level participation in the division during this time frame.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    Holmes
    Tyson
    Witherspoon
    Tucker
    Thomas
     
  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Tony Tucker shouldn't be in the top five for the 80's. He was a good fighter, but that record is heavily padded. James Douglas was the only man worth anything whom he beat for the decade, and that win only went up in stock value due to Douglas's eventual win over Tyson years later. Had Tyson been prepared and dealt with Douglas accordingly, Tucker would have been remembered as a high-end version of Brian Nielson.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    Tucker beat Jimmy Young, James Broad ( USA super heavy at the Olympics ), Mike Evans, and Dave Jaco. In the early 90's he beat McCall, and Norris, but his is an 80's thread. Maybe your right.
     
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think Tucker was a better fighter than his resume reflects. He threw good combinations, was fit in his younger years and could certainly take a punch. His credentials suffer however, especially during the 80's. Jimmy Young's better days were long behind him by the time he met Tucker in 1984. James Broad is more commonly remembered for having a good amateur career and not so much for anything he did in the pros. He had already been sparked badly by Witherspoon when Tucker decisioned him. Again, Tony was decent but his resume is very shallow.