1983 Greg Page vs 1986 Frank Bruno

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I did a search of the forum and didn’t find a thread on this. I’m thinking 1983 page and 1986 Bruno were prime versions of these guys. Some might say otherwise and that’s fine. But Let’s assume they both show up in shape. How does this one go?
     
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  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I guess Discovery has Shark Week and we have Frank Bruno week.

    Can’t open a thread without Frank showing up around here lately.

    I’ll give Page a decision win. Frank finally gets a point deducted for rabbit punches and has nothing else to fall back on, fades late and gets clearly outpointed.
     
  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like Greg Page in this one hes durable enough and his right hand will eventually find its home and stop Big Frank in his tracks leading to the stoppage.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
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  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    What you say makes perfect sense and I agree with it in principle. But I can’t help but recognize the fact that Page had a career habit of finding ways to lose to lesser men than Bruno yet the opposite didn’t seem to hold true. I realize that I set Greg’s prime in 1983 when he was truly on a rampage. But he later got stopped by journeyman Mark Wills while still only being 27 years of age. Was beaten by David Bey at age 25 ? 26 ? Lost to Douglas when he was nobody. Lost to Berbick in 1982 when he was favored to win. Again some of these losses just barely missed Greg’s prime by a tick. And his considerable attributes might have helped him to triumph over Bruno. But I can’t see it being a given. In fact Frank’s jab, power, conditioning and fighting heart might have made him a very tough test.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    Page could stoop below the level of Bruno but when interested he was well above it. With both in shape as stated Page has too many tools for Frank. An uninspired Page likely goes thru the motions to a points defeat but not the guy that turned up against Tillis, Snipes, Coetzee etc.
     
  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You make some good points let me try and address your points by breaking it down.

    This is true but i feel like Page did fight alot more notable names than Bruno to be fair, if you look at Pages record between 81-85 you will mostly find alot of notable names, top contenders, former champions, etc.

    Whilst Bruno did fight better singular names in Tyson, Lewis, i do feel like Page overall had much tougher opposition. And with Page's lack of dedication like alot of 80s Heavyweights, if he's fighting alot of notable names back to back it's not surprising to see a few losses here and there.

    Yeah he impressed me vs a good version of Tillis and Snipes, the Snipes one especially since Snipes for me had recently beat Witherspoon but didn't get the decision yet Page handled him pretty easily.

    As you know you can't really compare ages for certain fighters, Page had been in alot of tough fights and was not treating his body well going up and down in weight all the time it's going to have an effect on him.

    I feel like Page's last real notable performance vs Coetzee in 84 which he seemed inspired for, but then in his next fight vs Tubbs he came in out of shape and was lackluster and lost his title in a poor effort. And to me pretty much signalled the end of Page as a top 10 fighter.

    As for the Bey fight i watched that awhile ago it was a decent fight it's just Page just didn't up the pace when he needed to, he kind of slept walk in the 2nd half of the fight and lost a very close decision in a very winnable fight for him. I also don't think Bey was that bad despite his string of losses, i remember he gave a decent effort vs Holmes and came very close to beating a prime Biggs. I just think he carried on too long and his form dipped dramatically.

    TBH i don't think this was a bad loss Berbick was actually pretty solid he beat John Tate, Pinklon Thomas. I think if Berbick doesn't get caught cold early by Bruno then he had a chance of winning if he's on it.

    I know Page did break his right thumb early in the fight vs Berbick, i'm not if that had any impact on the fight. But Berbick just seemed to bully Page around the ring who didn't have much answers.

    Again as you know for Page to win this fight you'd have to get him on a night when he was firing on all cylinders which wasn't that often. But i do feel like at his very best hes capable of beating Bruno.

    Page was pretty durable just look at Ruddock fight when he was way past his prime, he took some of the most hellacious shots you'll ever see and was somehow still standing. I think Page's durability would be a factor in this fight, i also think Page's right hand would be a factor as i said earlier 48 stoppages in 58 wins is evident of that.
     
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  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Frank was a fan favorite. 6'4 230 pounds, carved out of granite, good and heavy jab and excellent punching power.
     
  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    His right hand won't find a home. His right hand will be staying in a cheap motel
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    That's a quality post.
     
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  11. Fergy

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    This could go either way for me. Both guys could **** it up, a see a late round ko tho for the winner.
     
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  12. Stevie G

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    Page too mobile and fluid for Frank. Greg takes it by late stoppage. I would n't say that 1986 was Frank's prime though - more like 1989.
     
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  13. Blofeld

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    Greg was a natural talent while Bruno was an overacheiver. Frank never gave less than 100% while Greg tended to sleepwalk. I actually fancy Bruno in this one. I can't put any sound argument behind this though, Greg was clearly the better boxer but he was so frustrating! I also feel Greg could be amazingly sloppy and showboat so I can see Frank getting in some solid shots even though Greg is very durable. Frank can lose concentration so should be a great fight with some sustained tension.
     
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  14. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I'm confident a motivated Page beats him. It's a shame that the 80s talents mostly couldn't hold it together but w rough lives, coke being rampant then Holmes n Tyson I'm not mad at them.
     
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  15. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In 1983 Greg Page was a winning fighter, in 1986, Frank Bruno was kayoed by WBA Champion Terrible Tim Witherspoon in the 11th round in London, England on a nationally televised bout. I think that Page with his speed and movement clearly outpoints the muscle bound Bruno.
     
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