1985 Heavyweights vs. 2010 Heavyweights

I think the division has now got some good characters and some talent. i wouldn't say its bad at all.

Problem is more onone seems to be fighting each other. Adamak is fighting Grant and Haye fights Audley. They should fight each other.

Also K bro's are just so dominating, they make everyone look worse than they are.

 

2010 is definitely better.

 

He's just been inclined to bash the current division so much he doesn't even realize that his own picks don't reflect his argument.

 

Strange, but I can see either Klitschko beating "limited" Larry, who is known for having one of the best jabs at Heavyweight ever, but not much else. Larry was a sucker for a good straight right hand & Wladimir throws one of the fastest & most powerful.

 

Dude, Chambers has been KO'd exactly once, by the very hard hitting Wlad Klitschko. Let's not pretend Eddie has no skill, or pretend Gerrie Coetzee had amazing skill or power.

 

C: W. Klitschko UD12 Spinks
1. V. Klitschko TKO 9 Thomas
2. Holmes TKO 10 Haye
3. Witherspoon TKO 8 Povetkin
4. Tubbs UD 12 Adamek
5. Page MD 12 Chagaev
6. Chambers UD 12 Coetzie
7. Berbick UD 12 Boystov
8. Williams UD 12 Valuev
9. Weaver KO 11 Dimitrenko
10. Dokes UD 12 Arreola

Based on those match ups I have the 80s winning.

I think the cream of the Crop in 2010 as they are now Wlad, Vitaly are good enough that they would have success in the 80s but the supporting cast is below par, the 80s has significantly better talent and they are far better conditioned. I can't imagine many 2010 fighting for 15 rounds. Some of them are even conditioned to fight 12.

Klitschko's aside 2010 can't compare to the 80s, 90s, 70s.

 

2 things:
1. Solis is easily top ten h2h
2. The top two matches matter the most, and 2010 has those covered.

 

Dont talk about stepping up in class!!!

How have any of the contenders now fared stepping up in "class"????
for starters the only class around are the K bros, and not one of those guys has come close to beating or even competing with them.
Povetkin and boystov wont fight anyone, Chambers best win is against Peter who makes old Foreman look rapid, Adamek has two fights against old men, one against a never will be and beats a fat punchbag who has proven to be unable to step up in class and hes in the top ten??, Chagaev?? Wow great wins over Valuev and Ruiz??? although i guess his form over the las three years warrants a top ten spot, beating such boxing icons as Carl Drummond, Matt Skelton and Kali Meehan and stepping up in CLASS and getting STOPPED by WK. As for Haye, Bonin, Valuev, Ruiz and Barrett mmm, doesnt impress me.

Who have these guys beaten?????? Better yet who have they fought that indicates they are quality???

 

Agree. Helenius would be better on this list

 

No need to pretend. Chambers has very little skill. His hands are quick, but he only throw a one two. His other skill, is leaning back a bit to avoid getting hit flush. (which is actually kind of a stupid tactic, fortunately for Eddie, the rest of the 2010 bunch are dumber then he is) His footwork sucks, he cant throw combos. His stamina and conditioning is garbage, he frequently does just enough to stay in a fight. I don't see how people seem to think Chambers has any skills? I guess being slightly quicker then a bunch of really slow people counts as skill these days?

 

I'm glad somebody else thinks the same way as me JLH. I was starting to think I was getting old and my eyesight was on the way out.

 

It's a very valid point.

The top guys from that era actually improved as fighters by fighting other top contenders, learning along the way.

Today though, a loss is seen as "BEING BRUTALLY EXPOSED" rather than simply perhaps stepping up in class a bit early, or taking on a fighter of the same level. Somebody has to lose in those fights.

The fighters today have no experience, nothing to draw on if fights aren't going their way. No plan B, no background or history of fighting their way out of difficult fights. No losses or mistakes to draw on, to learn from.

You don't learn **** all from smashing tomato cans in 3 rounds. Yep, you might go up the rankings and get a title shot, but it doesn't make you a better fighter.

Look at Povetkin. At 31, he's "not ready" to face a belt holder. What an absolute ****ing joke. Whoever the '80's guy was that was drawn to beat him would win, as Povetkin wouldn't show up.