1985 Larry Holmes vs. 2003 Roy Jones Jr.

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  1. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Spinks was able to do it, how about Roy Jones?
     
  2. ClintMagnum

    ClintMagnum Antitheist Full Member

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    Not even close mate. The only chance Roy had in the HW division was to pick a small heavyweight who wasn't mobile or hard to hit. Holmes has both of those talents as well as one of the most accurate,fast jabs in the HW division. Roy would struggle to find the range and get close, Holmes would dominate heavily IMO. :bbb
     
  3. WhataRock

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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Though the consensus seems dead set against it, I think its very possible for Jones to eek out a close decision over a 35 year old, deconditioned and complacent Holmes. Jones was far quicker at this stage in the game and may well have been a better technician in the first place, or certainly close to it. Larry looked horrible against Spinks in the first fight, and while the Carl Williams fight was extremely close, it wouldn't have been unreasonable to declare Williams as the winner.

    Now, the question here is WOULD Jones beat Holmes? My answer is maybe not, but the question of COULD he pull it off, is certainly a possibility.
     
  5. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In no way, shape or form should Jones ever be considered as good a technician as Holmes.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Co-sign!
     
  7. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    If Roy Jones had fought Lennox Lewis in 2003 instead of John Ruiz then we'd have something solid to gauge this question off.
     
  8. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    THere is no way Jones wil be able to deal with a faded but still strong Holmes.Holmes kayoes six Jones.
     
  9. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont think Jones was as strong as Spinks but if he played a cat and mouse he may make it close, just that chin makes it doubtful
     
  10. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he was, he wouldn't have aged as poorly as he has.

    Could Roy's chin even hold up to the Holmes jab? (The Holmes of Ocasio would have killed him with it, but Larry had regressed to flicking with it a bit by 1985.)
     
  11. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good analysis, an old Holmes would have trouble with Jones speed of hand and foot, Holmes was also too old to chase down the KO, is it worth noting Ruiz pretty much has the same dimensions as Holmes? Jones himself was fading by this stage but the Ruiz performance was still an excellent 1 and hes a better boxer than Spinks although hes smaller
     
  12. Body Head

    Body Head East Side Rape (CEO) Full Member

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    Holmes was definitely not a knockout artist. Jones would definitely be able to hang in there for quite a few arounds and win most, but I think Larry could win by TKO in the 9th or 10th.

    If it did go to a decision then I would pick Jones to win. Michael Spinks was a big light heavyweight 6'3" and Jones was only 5'10".


    A win for Jones is definitely a possibility considering it was a 1985 version of Holmes.
     
  13. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Perhaps, but I think Holmes may still take it.

    I belive the Ruiz win over rated Jones Jr for a while.


    Max Kellerman was saying Ray Robinson could beat Marciano, that Jones Jr could beat Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey and Joe Fraizer to boot.


    Even today, I cant see Jones Jr beating these heavyweight legends. He didnt "Earn" it so to speak, beating Ruiz is a far cry than beating Joe Louis or Marciano imo.

    I dont even consider Jones "Heavyweight" Champion so to speak since the real champ was Lewis at the time. Had Jones fought and beat Lewis, sure I give Roy credit, but he didnt.
     
  14. Blood Green

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    I like Jones in this matchup. I think Larry would try to outbox Jones and wind up losing. Jones' speed would 'cause more problems than Spinks presented. In regard to Jones' chin, there's a reason why nobody was able to touch it until past the Ruiz fight.
     
  15. Prime 78-82 larry holmes vs roy jones 2003= larry by murder

    but jones might well beat holmes 85ยด, spinks could so jones might too