1988-2008 P4p

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  1. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd say something like:

    1. Ricardo Lopez
    2. Roy Jones Jnr
    3. Pernell Whitaker
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Julio Cesar Chavez
    6. Floyd Mayweather
    7. Manny Pacquaio
    8. Juan Manuel Marquez
    9. Marco Antonio Barrera
    10. Erik Morales
    11. James Toney
    12. Evander Holyfield
    13. Joe Calzaghe
    14. Bernard Hopkins
    15. Mike Tyson
    16. Lennox Lewis
    17. Shane Mosley
    18. Winky Wright
    19. Mike McCallum
    20. Azumah Nelson
     
  2. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Prince Naseem ranks in the Top 5 PUNCHERS P4P (1988-2008) but outside the top 20 P4P overall.
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Floyd's always too high, he shouldn't rank over DLH, DLH fought and beat consistently better fighters than Floyd did.
     
  4. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    DLH lost to that very man and Mayweather rose 5 weight classes to do it without ever looking a natural at anything above 140.

    Mayweather's won every big fight he's been in.....ODLH the opposite.
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    And Mayweather has never fought a real elite fighter, Oscar's fought plenty of them, thus why the losses are in discussion. And please don't bring up a shot DLH vs. Floyd, he had no legs and was sloppy with very little speed.

    Has nothing to do with anything.
     
  6. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Another shot fighter after the event?

    Past his prime, not shot.

    Mayweather beat the men at 135, Castillo and Coralles, the latter he demolished. He KO'd the man at 140. He beat the former undisputed champion at WW in Judah, then he beat the man the undisputed (if they'd been put on the line) champion in Baldomir and then beat the man at 154 in ODLH.

    Now he needs to beat Cotto and retire.
     
  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Okay....

    Castillo, Corralles, Judah, Baldomir and a past-it/inactive Hoya....

    Where are the ELITE fighters in this mix? Elite, meaning top skill and ability of the sport without serious drawbacks.
     
  8. KDot10

    KDot10 Roy Jones Jr. Full Member

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    as long as RJJ is number 1, we're fine
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    :patsch
     
  10. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    It's true Pimp :yep When you, Roger and Ellerbe finally fall out of Floyds ******* you'll see it too :lol: :good
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    It's not true PBF will always be remembered as a better fighter than Oscar period. He's 1-0 against him about to be 2-0, he's undefeated has won 90% of his fights with ease and is a great H2H fighter. He's a much more complete fighter than Oscar could ever dream of being and doesn't have 5 losses on his record as well. Sorry PBF is superior deal with it Oscarsexual.:hi: :good
     
  12. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How do you have Naseem Hamed and Juan Manuel Marquez in the list, and not Shane Mosely? How do you justifiy that, unless they just happen to be your favorites?
     
  13. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed. Oscar's resume is SICK.

    http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=8253&cat=boxer

    And, even if he lost a few, he was always competitive.

    Oscar was past his best when he fought a PRIME Mayweather and bullied him IMHO. Mayweather may have won the boxing match with CLEANER punches but De La Hoya won the FIGHT.

    Mayweather needs a good win over Cotto (at least) to move above De La Hoya.
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    **** off! Hopkins hasn't got a resume even comparable to De La Hoya's. There is no-one on Hopkins resume who comes close to either Whitaker or Chavez. I honestly don't think Hopkins has a better win than De La Hoya's over Quartey.
    None of that is relevant when it comes to legacy. Oscar beat better fighters, therefore, ranks above Mayweather.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    Wrong dead wrong. PBF will rank ahead of Oscar in legacy Oscar can't beat the elites and is 0-5 against them:deal Beating a shot Chavez prves nothing and he got a gift against a fadded Pea in a fight which he was dropped and clowned. PBF will be remembered the better fighter how can he not? He's undefeated, far more skilled and was more dominant not to mention he's 1-0 against him about to be 2-0 and the greatest 130 pound fighter off all time. PBF is already a top 30 ATG Oscar is barely top 75.