1988 Mike Tyson vs 1971 Joe Frazier

Being a slow starter against Tyson is not good news. Show me one fight against at least decent opposition where Joe didn't get tagged clean and hard in the opening round. Ramos had him more or less out on his feet and Bonavena floored (a green, tbf) Frazier two times. Quarry, Ellis, Mathis, Foster and Ali all tagged Joe with good punches early but they didn't have that devastating power (Foster not at HW).

Tyson had more power than anyone Joe met besides Foreman, was an ultra fast starter and a great finisher. Just a terrible, terrible recipe for Frazier.

 

Yeah, because Tyson was above butting himself, right?

Come on, don't excuse biting your opponents ear off as more or less standard dirty fighting. Tyson did plenty of that also, but going effing Lecter? That's just a wholly different thing.

 

He wasn't bad, but not great either. Even that out of shape version of Tubbs showed better skills on the inside, it's just that his blows didn't even tickle Tyson. Mike's punches on the other hand...

 

If Frazier could get it to a trench war, I like his chances. I just don't think he could.

 

My god, you're such a fan boy.

To start with Tyson opened the can long before by being a quite dirty fighter himself. He would hit on the break, after the bell and when an opponent was down, he would try to break arms and, yes, he would butt. Second, what would you rather have yourself - a butt, that happens often even in sparring, or your friggin ear bitten off? Go to a gym and see if other fighters would look the same on you eating their ear and a butt/clash of heads.

In honestly didn't even see clear foul by Holy. It came naturally from him keeping his head low, under Mike's over hand rights. Not nearly as Hopkins, for example. You think even Bernard's opponents would rather have their ears chewed off?

 

Tyson beats him worse than Marvis

 

Why the hell is Tyson by KO even an option? Foreman who hit MUCH harder than Tyson and whom actually had a stylistic advantage over Frazier couldn't KO him. But Tyson is? Typical Tyson fanboy logic.

 

OK

 

Larry Merchant said it best...

"Frazier was a mile wide and a mile deep...Tyson was a mile wide, and an inch deep"

 

Tyson should win.... Frazier probably would win.

Remember they are fighters

 

Then again, this is the same guy that says the Tyson of the Tillis fight KOs any version of Holmes. I wouldn't take anything he says to seriously.

 

So every time a fighter feels himself to be fouled, he has the right to bite his opponent's ear off? Would be ears bitten off in just about every fight then. Tyson himself would be without ears by that point.