1989 Michael Dokes vs 1975 Ron Lyle

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    Jan 3, 2007
    The reincarnated Dokes who slugged it out with Evander vs the brave and courageous Lyle who gave Foreman fits. Who takes it ?
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

    Sep 21, 2017
    Oohh...I don't think Dokes would like this. Lyle stops Dokes but hits the canvas
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  3. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

    Nov 13, 2010
    I like Dokes, corn rolls and all. He was quick and fast and probably doesn't get slapped by the double whammy nut shot/headbutt from Lyle that Holyfield presented.

    Then again Dokes didn't do too well against the big bangers he fought like Coetzee and Ruddock. Prime Dokes did beat Weaver and held him to a draw early on so he has that. Weaver was pretty good back then too, possibly on Lyle's level.

    1975 Lyle was mean though. Hmmm...
  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra Featherweight up to yo Mama's weight! Full Member

    Jan 6, 2017
    Very difficult fight to call. Lyle could target the body to slow down the faster Dokes, and he had a decent jab when he bothered to use it. Dokes has the technique and quickness to keep Lyle from getting too comfortable banging away. Both had the ability to hurt each other and this could either end in a KO or it could go the distance. Pretty even matchup and I can't pick a winner right now.
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  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    Jan 3, 2007
    It is tough. And to reiterate, this is the 1989 version of Dokes we’re talking about who was a bit more bulked up and was converted into more of a puncher than boxer. Sure he still had fast hands which may have helped him. And that late 80s Dokes was charged. Drug free, under new management and fighting several times a year. I can see this being a tough one
  6. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member Full Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Dokes was a better boxer and had faster hands. I'm just not sold on his durability against a guy like Lyle down the stretch though.
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    Jan 8, 2017
    Really tough one to call. I lean toward Dokes actually 'Outboxing' Lyle, but it could easily turn the other way, similar to the Dokes - Ruddock fight.
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  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jun 26, 2009
    I could see a lighter, more youthful Dokes with his footwork and speed outfoxing and outboxing Lyle for a decision win, but the version that fought Holyfield was a short-armed slugger who planted and let his combos go … but wasn’t mobile enough to avoid being there for the receipt.

    And Lyle would hand out some receipts. I think Ron wears Dokes down to either win by decision or late stoppage after falling behind early. Once Dokes starts trading more and more, he’s going to be fighting Ron’s fight.
  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jan 14, 2022
    The early version of Dokes who was constantly moving and out boxed Tex Cobb, would have a chance of outboxing Lyle.

    The more aggressive Dokes in 89 gets knocked out pure and simple.
  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Oct 4, 2016
    That's my opinion as well, I could see Dokes being in command when he staggered and dropped around the 7th or 8th.
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  11. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    Excellent post,Mr Magoo. A very thought provoking one too. I'll be back when I've thought about it.
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  12. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Oct 18, 2004
    Dokes was a good fighter, but after 1985, was just about done for. And his power was a bit overrated. But tough as hell. Lyle UD.