1993-94 Tommy Morrison v.s Haye

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  1. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Morrison could win this, but he could also get 'Benttd' at anytime if he makes one mistake
     
  2. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Morrison demolishes fraud KO in 5 or less
     
  3. energie

    energie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    morrison no problem
     
  4. mr. magoo

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    This is hardly a match where one man could be too heavily favored over the other. You had two guys who both hit exceptionally hard, with one of them being somewhat afraid to take chances while the other rushed into making fool hardy mistakes and neither of whom had much of a beard. David Haye was clearly unproven at heavyweight as most of his opposition was lackluster ( with the exception of Klitschko who he looked like **** against ) while Tommy Morrison was humiliated by Ray Mercer and Michael Bentt, and nearly blew fights against Ross Purity and an aged Carl Williams. On paper this looks like an early to mid round stoppage for either one of the contestants, but if Morrison chooses to fight Haye the way he fought Foreman, while David refuses to put himself in harms way as he did against Klitscko, it may be a surprisingly dull fight.. In all probability though, it really comes down to who is able to establish a clear landing pattern early, and frankly I may be inclined to leaning towards Haye as he was the slightly more skilled and agile of the two..
     
  5. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry, Haye is NOT more skilled than Morrison:huh, Skill is not running around the ring like a coward, chicken in the biggest fight of your career, Skilled is the way Morrison outboxed Foreman, at a time when Foreman was whupping everybodys ass in the Talent heavy 90's, the only other fighter able to do that in Foreman's 2nd career is Holyfield...
    Morrison fought Mercer, Ruddock, Lewis, Foreman, Purrity, the same guy who knocked out Wlad Klitchko, and throw in Williams, and Hipp too, Morrison's resume is a lot thicker with bad asses than Haye, Morrison simply fought better guy's...
    After watching both of these guy's fight, Morrison is just as agile as Haye, Morrison was fast, athletic, and moved extremely well for a big man, not to mention a helluva lot more tenacious...
     
  6. THEBESTEVA

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    jimmy young did it to. just sayin. It seems like your overating morrison a little bit, haye is no scrub and i would actually put my money on him to win via a ud
     
  7. mr. magoo

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    Hopefully you're aware that he had more than one fight.


    Foreman wasn't whipping "everybody's" ass.. Morrison's meeting with George was more than two years after the Holyfield match. While Tommy boxed a smart fight, there was plenty of running going on, and I can show you a number of performances where he looked far less stellar..


    Yes, a nice list of names to reel off. Unfortunately, he either got his ass kicked by half of them and struggled life and death with the other half, some of whom were even past their primes. Funny you should mention Ross Purity.. He was only 8-8 when he fought a fully primed Morrison and decked him twice enroute to a controversial draw. A very green Wladimir fought a more seasoned Purity and was beating him for most of the evening before gassing.. Not a great case builder for the Duke.


    Hence my earlier comment in my last post about Haye being unproven at heavyweight, but then again I don't think one needs much validation against a guy who was sparked in one round by Michael bentt and all but beaten by 8-8 Purity.

    Well he certainly looked like grease lightening against a 44 year old, 260 lb man. I'll give him that.
     
  8. sauhund II

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    Haye is a fraud at HWT. Fact.

    You are utterly clueless. Humilliated by Mercer ? The same Mercer would took Lemmie to the limit , forced Holyfield to come from behind...that one ? The Morrison/Lewis/Holyfield versions of Mercer deflates Haye.

    In his prime Morrison was a very dangerous and talented Top Ten fighter with some real pop.

    He fought EVERYBODY and that would have included Tyson if he not would have tested positive.

    In Gays prime he got KO'ed by a grandpa, hit the deck against Eurobum Mormeck and fought the worst washed up has been competition at Heavyweight except the missing link where he stunk the joint out and played rabbit against WK.

    Chisora is pure crap D level.......lasting the distance with shopworn methusalem VK means jack.

    Morrison took shots from much harder hitting fighters and kept on ticking, are you that naive that haye hit as hard as Ruddock or Foreman ?

    The fact is , Haye would never get into the ring with Morrison after running his mouth for two years and claiming robbery contracts .

    Haye was scared shitless to get touched by WK who does not sit down on his punches anymore............Morrison would hit Haye like he has never been hit before if he decides to engage and after that he would need the sniffing salt or a set of extra cushioned track shoes to protect his toe for the marathon event for the rest of the fight.

    Tommy went 52 and 3........and would have no problem with Hayes heavyweight comp except WK but at least he would put on a show and try instead of all words and no deed Haye.
     
  9. sauhund II

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    LOL, Haye is a SCRUB, his heavyweight resume is pure ****, all noise and no go, easily the most over rated fighter in ages..........if he would have fought in Morrisons time frame , Holyfield Bowe Lewis Tyson Mercer Bruno etc etcwould have done a ugly number on him...
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    It's true. Expecting athletes to be as good/strong/powerful as they are in the "PED era" without them taking PEDs is the ridiculous thing. It's like people who think Usain Bolt must be clean, yet he's faster than every dude that's ever taken PEDs. Or the ridiculous idea that the guys who take PEDs are just a few who don't have the dedication or natural talent. Rather than the more obvious - ie. the most driven/professional/talented guys with the champion-mentality are even more likely to be taking the PEDs.
    We're decades in to the "PED era" and still people don't want to believe it. :good
     
  11. mr. magoo

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    Wow, what a horrible post. So much nonsense here its not even worth the time to take it apart. Commenting on one thing though, David Haye was in his 11th pro bout and that "grandpa" was a former world champion ranked in the top 10 with 40 pro fights. Morrison was coming off the biggest win of his career with far more experience when he got KO'd in one round by a man who was far worse than Grandpa.
     
  12. NoNeck

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    Haye destroys Morrison.
     
  13. NoNeck

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    I'm with you on this except I see knockout and not decision. Hay'e speed and ambush tactics would be hell for Morrison.
     
  14. mr. magoo

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    To be clear, I wouldn't make either man a heavy favorite. I only give Haye the edge because I feel that he was marginally more skilled and agile while also having enough power to put morrison out. The biggest problems I have with the posts which support Morrison are 1. people are making too many references to Haye's meeting with Klitschko as being evidence that he couldn't fight and 2. for some reason 20 years have somehow managed to transform tommy morrison from a fringe level guy at best into an elite force. I liked Rocky V and thought the Duke's uncle, ( the REAL Duke ) was a great actor, but we shouldn't let that dictate things.
     
  15. NoNeck

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    I don't even think Haye's performance against Wlad was that bad. He won some rounds during the first half and landed a nice shot in the 12th round. He wasn't the better man, so it's understandable that he lost, and going all out isn't a realistic thing to expect from most fighters. He had a better performance than a large majority of his contemporaries, many of whom were roughly on the same tier as Morrison, some better imo.