1993 - Bowe/Lewis - Who Wins?

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  1. streetsaresafer

    streetsaresafer Member Full Member

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    Biggest heavyweight fight that didn't happen (outside of a Holmes/Foreman clash in the late 70s) is clearly a Bowe/Lewis clash in 1993

    So who wins this fight?

    Yes I know that Rock Newman and Bowe 'ducked' Lewis and decided instead to go on a world tour to maximize Bowe financially and take low risk fights. And I know that Lewis beat Bowe in the amateurs - although this should count for very little because Henry Tillman beat Mike Tyson in the amateurs and then was destroyed when they fought professionally. But let us assume this fight goes off as it was supposed to after the Lewis/Ruddock, Bowe/Holy I fights.

    Remember Bowe was in his prime at this point coming off the best win of his career. Bowe was still top notch in 93 - he crushed Dokes and Ferguson and lost a close fight with Holyfield in their 2nd bout. So while some say Bowe was only prime for one fight, I think he was still easily in his prime in 93. I don't think Bowe had faded significantly until 96 with the Golota fights.

    Lewis was a top notch contender in 93, but he had not hit his prime yet. He beat Tony Tucker by decision but his performance was not one of his more impressive ones. Against Bruno, he had to come from behind to win. So while Lewis was one of the best in the world, he had not hit his prime yet.

    Prediction - Bowe UD - 115-113, 115-114, 115-113

    I think Bowe in 93 wins a close decision against the not yet prime Lewis.

    Bowe was one of the best infighters ever, especially considering his size. Bowe had a strong jab, threw good combinations, and could through some enormous uppercuts (see Holy I-Rd 10). Bowe also had a strong chin as well.

    Lewis was really good in 93, but I don't think he had enough to outpoint a prime Bowe at this point. Yes he had the most powerful punch of the 2 - Lewis's right hand. Yes he destroyed Rudduck. Yes he beat Bowe in the amateurs.

    But the Lewis of 93 had 3 things missing from a prime Lewis
    1. Emanuel Steward
    2. Jab was not great yet - he pawed with it too much
    3. Defense was not as tight as it was with Steward - see
    Oliver Mccall in 94.

    So I like Bowe in 93 in a great fight - in what would have been the best big man fight ever.
     
  2. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Lewis wins in any year.

    Just too good.
     
  3. Danny

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    Back in 1993, Bowe was HW champion & a much more polished, refined fighter than Lewis was. For a big man, Riddick was one of the best in-fighters I've ever seen. Bowe was a skillful fighter. It was only his dedication, discipline that let him down. Bowe could/should have achieved a lot more than he did.

    Lewis, for me, was a lot more "green" back then. One could argue that Lewis was coming off a great victory from the KO of Ruddock, but Donovan was nowhere near the same fighter who fought Tyson the previous year. Nonetheless, it was a brillaint & unexpected win by Lewis.

    However, Bowe was a completely different technician to that of Ruddock. I believe had morev variety than Lewis at this stage of their career. Riddick by UD, may be TKO, but UD is more like it.
     
  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Excellent analysis. People forget that, in the early 90s, Bowe was much further along in the pro game than Lewis. If he had been at all dedicated to the sport, Bowe could have easily been an ATG. Sadly, once he cashed in he seemed to lose motivation.
     
  5. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    I think Luis but Bowe had a ****in jaw...That Bowe Golata fight was great lmao.... *combination to the nuts for the win!"
     
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    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just out of curiosity how did you arrive at the conclussion Donovan was nowhere near the fighter he was when he fought Tyson?
     
  10. streetsaresafer

    streetsaresafer Member Full Member

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    Voting definitely closer for the 93 matchup than the 95 one, as expected

    Although I don't think Bowe was that much deterioted in 95, if he wasn't prime he was still pretty close considering his KO of Gonzalez and then being the first man to knock Holy out
     
  11. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    In 93, when Bowe was in shape and motivated, and when Lewis hadn't refined his jab yet, Bowe would have cruised to a victory, around 116-112. Bowe also would have had a very good chance at KTFOing Lewis. It's a shame he ducked, because he probably would have won.
     
  12. Shotgun

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    Lewis would batter Bowe into submission. Bowe had no defense, and someone who hits as hard as Lewis was landing clean on Bowe the way Holyfield and Golota did, Bowe would've been stopped

    There's a reason Bowe avoided big punchers his entire career, and there's a reason he turned down a mega-payday to fight Lewis in favor of fights against the likes of Michael Dokes and Jesse Ferguson. He wanted nothing to do with Lewis
     
  13. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bowe's skills are overrated, and he was one dimensional. He had no defense and a mediocre outside game. There's a reason that the first time he fought a skilled big man with an outside game he got his ass (and later his balls) handed to him on a plate. People claim he was shot but he was also in there with the only legitimate top 10 heavyweight he'd ever fought aside from Holyfield, who he matched up against perfectly. If Golota had anything more than average power Bowe would've been stopped in under 6 rounds in both of their fights

    Yeah, Bowe was a great infighter for a big man. But his ability to impose his will on another skilled big man was non-existant, as Golota showed. Even though Lewis wasn't yet as polished as he later was, he was still a better long range fighter at that point in his career than Bowe ever was, and I'm skeptical that Bowe would've been able to goad or force Lewis into an inside fight
     
  14. streetsaresafer

    streetsaresafer Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't go so far as to say Bowe had no defense
    He could be hit for sure, but Bowe had a pretty strong chin so I don't think he'd get KOd so easily by Lewis, particularly in 93 when Lewis wasn't prime yet

    I can't understand how someone can watch a fight like Lewis/Tucker in 93 and then see Bowe/Holy I in 92 or even Bowe/Ferguson in 93 and not concede that Bowe was ahead of Lewis at that point

    Bowe would dominate Lewis on the inside in 93, and on the outside I'd say Bowe's jab and Lewis's jab were a pretty even contest
    Yes Bowe would get hit, but he would be smart enough to protect himself from getting hit flush with a Lewis right hand and his chin should keep him in it. I think Bowe could knock Lewis out but I think a close decision win is more likely in 93 in what would have been a great fight

    I agree in 95 Lewis takes Bowe, but in 93 Bowe had the edge.
    The voting is Lewis by a wide margin in 95, but the 93 fight is much closer, so this notion that Lewis would destroy Bowe in 93 is a bit ridiculous

    Objectivity is key when looking at these matchups and it seems there are so many Lewis fans that loathe Bowe that they forget that Bowe was recognized as a pretty great fighter back in 93, and in fact it could be argued Bowe was the most talented of the Big 4 (Tyson, Holy, Bowe, Lewis)
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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    Yes objectivity is the key..and when Bowe had the chance to fight Lewis and prove everything you claim to be true, he instead ducked him. That's as objective as anyone has to be. You're attributes regarding the two fighters are somewhat speculative, that Bowe ducked Lewis isn't speculation at all, it happened. If Bowe had agreed with your assessment between himself and Lewis they would have fought.