1993 SMW tournament

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Tournament Winner

  1. James Toney

    77.3%
  2. Michael Nunn

    9.1%
  3. Chris Eubank

    13.6%
  4. Nigel Benn

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Stop trolling.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Excellent twist on things.

    Definitely more interesting as Toney was quite a clear winner with my matchups.

    I pick Toney to beat Eubank in the first semifinal.

    Benn and Nunn is hard to call. Nunn was slowing down and Benn was probably as good as he ever was. I'll give Benn the edge to catch up to Nunn and knock him out.

    Toney stops Benn in the final.
     
  3. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Eubank would have to do the weight right instead of being lazy with his eating and lead with his jab instead of trying to show off, or he'd lose to Toney; the more free-flowing puncher.
     
  4. lufcrazy

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    Eubank isn't active enough or quick enough imo.

    However he was more consistent than Toney so if Toney doesn't take it seriously Eubank can definitely pull it off.
     
  5. CharlesBurley

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    Eubank and Toney are probably easily lazy tbh
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    They are, but I don't see Eubank beating Toney at a slower pace. He isn't beating him to punch and staying outside of his range.

    Eubank needs Toney to have an off night, and that's not too unlikely.
     
  7. Bulldog24

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    Eubank looked disinterested in many fights, like Moro, Milo and Malinga, stinking the joint out, but when a fighter came at him and forced him to throw those combinations of perfect short punches to counter (left uppercut, right uppercut etc) like Denys Cronin did, he looked phenomenal - Ali/Williams, Hamed/Belcastro, Jones Jr/Tate phenomenal.

    Cronin, Benn (1), Rocchigiani and Wharton just walked straight in and it was beautiful to behold seeing Eubank pick them off, the way he poetically picked them to pieces.

    Toney showed the best skills in history against Barkley. But lost clearly to journeyman club fighter Dave Tiberi.
     
  8. Bulldog24

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    Against Ray Close (1), he's clearly just ****ing about and trying things out. Having fun. Lazy.
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    The problem is, it isn't just about looking phenomenal, it's who you look phenomenal against that's important.

    It's much more impressive taking a decision against McCallum then stopping Barkley.

    Eubanks isn't beating Toney punch by punch, he's not going to overwhelm him with activity, he isn't going to beat him from range.

    It's very tough picturing Eubank winning unless Toney doesn't train effectively.
     
  10. Bulldog24

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    Using his jab and feet he can win. Eubank had a TERRIFIC stiff jab that was untelegraphed (when he decided to use it), a Eubank-Toney fight would 100% depend on whether Toney can read it to avoid and counter, or he gets ground down.
     
  11. Bulldog24

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    Both lazy, inconsistent, yet majestic talents
     
  12. Bulldog24

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    Neither of them were happy fighting on the front foot, although Toney's walk down ability was scarey against Tim Littles
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    The difference is, imo, when Eubank was lazy, he was lazy in control, lazy winning, lazy being better.

    When Toney was lazy he would shell up and look the inferior man.

    For example, if someone the class of Tiberi had spent 6 rounds pinning Eubank to the ropes, there's no way Eubank would spend the next 6 on the ropes hoping for a generous decision, he would kill himself to turn the fight around.

    And this is why I think he loses to Toney, he doesn't have the ability to outbox Toney (unless Toney is being his inconsistent plodding lazy version) so he would have to up his aggression which plays more into the hands of Toney.
     
  14. Bulldog24

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    Toney would be the one forcing the fight, walking down Eubank and outworking and hurting him, forcing him to trade in-close. I think he'd likely eat too many stiff lefts on the way in though. Eubank was the mover (side to side both ways and in and out or angling and changing paces unpredictably), Toney the static technician.
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    I don't think Eubank is quick enough to force Toney into being the aggressor.