1994 Oliver McCall vs 1974 George Foreman

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Say the McCall who sparked Lewis vs the Foreman who beat Norton. How do you see this one playing out?
     
  2. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ollie goes nite-nite...
     
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  3. heizenberg

    heizenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think McCall has the tools physically or mentally to deal with the young Foreman on slaught. Foreman puts a bad hurting on him and takes him out around 3-5 rounds. McCall was very durable but a human can only take so much wouldn't be surprised to see McCall look like he is crying by the end of this one and even take a knee and let the ref count him out after being battered.
     
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  4. mr. magoo

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    No one has ever legitimately stopped McCall in the 80 or so fights that he's had. The one time he was ruled as TKO'd was in a fight that he had a mental break down in after a spell of being in drug rehab and showing erratic behavior in the days leading up to the fight. I don't think the crying thing is a likely scenario to bank on...
     
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  5. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would say that the crying thing McCall did in the rematch would be real and he wouldn't drop his hands again if he survived
     
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  6. The Mongoose

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    Bruno was hurting McCall in the first round but wasn't looking to finish, the Atomic Bull got rocked several times and had to back up, hold on, or go to the ropes. McCall went into his shell after that and Bruno was happy to outbox him. Foreman would have jumped all over McCall and forced an early stoppage on the ropes.

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  7. perko

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    Foreman KOs McCall in 1 or 2 , George lived on fighters who stood right in front of him.
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    Its reasonable to pick Foreman. But I don't think anyone is stopping McCall in " one or two" rounds.
     
  9. Seamus

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    McCall isn't getting stopped by damn near anyone but the ready rock.
     
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  10. NoNeck

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    If it takes place in Zaire, Foreman ends up on his ass.
     
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  11. The Mongoose

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    Hell, Bruno probably could have done it if he was more aggressive. He had a hurt McCall on the ropes, holding on, and backing up several times in the first three rounds. Bruno understandably was timid though and played it safe, never forcing the issue, but Foreman would. He wouldn't hesitant when McCall backed up or fell into the ropes, and he would just push him off if he tried to walk in and clinch. People forget how much of an effect Bruno's punches were having on the supposedly unstoppable Bull.
     
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  12. The Mongoose

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    Bruno has worse stamina than Foreman in any location. You aren't going to tire someone out when you go into shell for half the fight after getting knocked around like a ragdoll.
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    I watched the footage. Frank landed some big shots which clearly hurt him, but McCall didn't ever appear to be in any serious trouble, and actually did a pretty good job at neutralizing Bruno when he came in to follow up. I think you made a bit too much of what you were looking at. And yes, Frank's punches were having an effect. The man hits as hard as anyone despite what a lot of people say.
     
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  14. The Mongoose

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    I don't think Bruno was looking for a follow up in most instances, he played it safe as he should have given his tendency to get himself into trouble, he was content with controlling the fight. Foreman hit as hard Bruno but was a far superior and aggressive finisher. I think would be similar to the Chuvalo stoppage, McCall still on his feet and maybe making a case he could have continued, but Foreman is going to do what he wants.
     
  15. BUDW

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    Foreman ko in 2 or less