1994 Oliver McCall vs 1974 George Foreman

Remember that Foreman from the Norton fight was pacing himself. Foreman fought Ali different because Ali got inside George's head with the pre-fight comments and constant taunts in the ring. I doubt McCall would verbally assault George like Ali did. Going back to the original thread question, this would be George from the Norton fight. If George fights like that, I don't see George doing the foolish thing that he did against Ali. Of course George did it again against Young but we're concentrating on the March 1974 Foreman.

 

There is no "Ali Halo".

 

Um… really?

Seldon was world class and more than "studied" boxing. His problems were of the neck up variety. He had a spectacular jab and good power. Tyson and Bowe totally intimidated him. He just didn't have the championship mentality. As far as the physical tools to compete on the elite level, he did possess those.

 

Azzer is right. Seldon was ****.

 

:happy

Thank You

 

Seldon WAS ****

Tyson and Bowe intimidated him....awwww poor Bruce. :verysad

 

This isnt about me being a top ten world class boxer, the comment i made (if you read it again properly was) put me in with Seldon and i would more than hold my own.

You really are a ****ing moron.

No point wasting my time with the likes of you anymore.

Any credibility that you had went out of the window when you tried to convince me that Mcall would beat Foreman wholly because he turned the fight around against Seldon

 

Who the hell bought Seldon into this - a B grade contender at best.

 

John Galt bought him in, he basiclly said that Mcall would soak up the punishment from Foreman and then stop an exhausted Foreman in the later rounds. I asked him what he based that on?

Because Mcall turned the fight round against Seldon

atsch

 

It's easy to sit on a keyboard and call pro boxers "****". It's another thing to face them and back up those sentiments. Seldon was a Golden Gloves champ, a ranked heavy for half a dozen years and a belt holder for a short time. Unless you did more than study boxing I don't think you would be holding much in the ring with him but a steady gaze at the ceiling.

And, yes, as a fan, I did not like Seldon and thought he took an easy out in the Tyson fight. I was also a big Joe Hipp fan. But that doesn't make Seldon "****", especially compared to what I, and I suppose you, have done in boxing.

 

As a former fighter i feel i do have the right to call Seldon ****, because he was.

 

As a former fighter, I wish I had been as successful in the ring as he was.

But, yeah, he had flaws.

 

Right .. more fantasy.

Bruno , a monster puncher in his own right and a fast starter, came out strong, landed a few big shots that moved but never hurt McCall in any serious way
other than a thumb in the eye that had him squinting. Show us where in that first round that McCall was seriously hurt, knees buckled, in danger of going down .. When your done show the clip of Shavers dropping Cobb as well ..

AS far as the rest of the bout, Bruno tired as he did against Smith, Witherspoon, Lewis and had to hold on for a victory .. McCall had him holding on for his life at the end .. See the 51:30 mark .. your claim of McCall coasting in a shell is typical of you, simply wrong.

As far as a match up with a 74 Foreman , it is interesting because that Foreman was a huge front runner with confidence and stamina issues and because McCall had an all time terrific chin combined with size and decent skills .. it is an intriguing match up and if McCall, a huge head case himself was extremely motivated anything could happen ..

 

Just watched what I could stomach of the McCall/Seldon fight.

It wasn't no comeback. Seldon was landing lots of telegraphed jabs by circling in the same direction over and overbut he was getting rocked and put on the ropes by blocked punches as the opening minutes. People comparing this crap to coming back against Foreman?