1996-Tyson vs Lewis - What would have happened?

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  1. Radar

    Radar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Clearly a shitload smarter than you - if career path is a reliable indicator. And it is. :lol:

    So you were 16 at the time. Chances are you weren't even following the sport at the time. That is evidenced by your long history of blatant reliance on Boxrec as the be-all end-all. :rofl

    You have jack **** firsthand knowledge of the period in question. Like I said, this is just a transparent attempt to stir ****. When Tyson finally grew a pair and faced the music he got pounded in a brutal, one-sided beatdown. That's what we have on file that is real and verifiable. How much prestige did Tyson give away by ducking Lewis to face Bruce Seldon? Maybe Tyson would have fought Lewis - but King wouldn't allow it. And not one of us knows what strings would have been attached even if King had taken that huge risk with his mega cash cow.

    If you think this was some clearcut, simple case then you need to get up to speed. Start here and filter the clearly pro-Tyson bias that is self-evident:

    http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/wbc10-7.htm

    At the end of the day Lennox Lewis is the one who was ducked by Bowe, Holyfield, and Tyson when it mattered most to every one of them. Anyone who suggests that he wasn't a "name" at the time has **** for brains. He had a name and he had a reputation as one of the top 4 HW's in the world. The other three men knew exactly who he was and what he was capable of in the ring.
     
  2. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lewis would have koed the weak chined moorer very quick and we know that foreman would not have got in the ring with lewis at that stage of his career. Then we have chicken bowe who wouldn't fight lewis and would rather throw his belt in the bin than take the challenge.
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    ]"It's very ironic that while Lewis sought an opportunity to fight Tyson, and succeeded in forcing him to relinquish the title due a court's ruling, he apparently never had the ability to accept the fight because of his exclusive promotional agreement with HBO."[/

    I have no problem comprehending the text in that link Widdow. This is the sort of stuff I meant when I said ELABORATE on the situation and give more details on the offer and why Lewis declined :yep:good
     
  4. Radar

    Radar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He can't give details on things he knows nothing about. :lol:
     
  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Career path? Here you go again making things personal, and bragging yourself up.:-( I have my own successful business... you can't even subtract correctly.:lol:

    Who the hell ever said that Lennox Lewis wasn't a "name" at the time? Why do you make **** up, and then argue about what you just made up?:think Also, why are you going on and on about Lewis being ducked, and not responding to the topic of the thread which had nothing to do with anybody ducking anyone? The title of the thread asked how you felt the fight would have gone with Tyson vs Lewis in 1996, and how do you feel it would have impacted the heavyweight landscape throughout the second half of the 90's? Get your head out of Lewis' ass, and get on topic. BTW, you can get over the "boxrec" nonsense. That was played out 5 years ago when I was spanking you and that was all you could come back with.

    You don't have to be upset about Lewis not fighting any of the top 5 fighters of his era while they were at their best... or the fact that he also avoided the top contenders when he was Champ. That is for another thread.:good


    Just to answer you though, becuase obviously you can't stop going on about it..... It is my opinion that Lewis played into the fact that he was overlooked by not seizing the opportunities when they presented themselves. You can't blame someone like Holyfield for ducking anyone when the man fought EVERYONE in that era. Lewis didn't fight any of them, didn't fight his top contenders when he was champ.... hell, he never even fought a southpaw before. Lewis could have put himself into a position where it would have been impossible to "duck" him if he had taken the fight with Tyson when it was offered.
     
  6. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    That is complete bull****. Why then was Lewis prepared to accept the fight after Tyson fought Seldon?:nut He just couldn't do it before the Seldon fight, but afterwards it was just fine?:patsch
     
  7. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    to get more money out of the deal, i would have thought a guy with his own business would understand simple business practise :rofl
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This somehow assumes Lewis was a fortune teller, because it's clearly a hindsite view of things. At the time he accepted the $4M to step aside so that Tyson could fight Sheldon, he thought he was going to be next in line. Had he thought otherwise and known what the future held, he likely would have made a different decision.

    Needless to say there would have been considerable pressure put on him to allow Tyson to earn, what also amounted to a free payday.

    Of course all this is moot, if HBO disallowed the fight to begin with, which given the $$$ involved seems like a strange decision, unless the fight was going to be shown on a different network.
     
  9. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    Lewis inside 10 rounds.
     
  10. Radar

    Radar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Personal"??? Actually you're the one that did that with the "not very smart" comments. If you want to see how much farther you've fallen behind me in the past three years just say the word. :lol:

    While we're on the topic, what's the name of your landscaping firm? And don't just desperately pick a name at random from the Martin's Ferry yellow page entries - all two companies. :lol:

    Your comments on this topic are bull****. Bred of ignorance and bias. What else could we expect from someone who perpetuated a bald-faced lie about a "headbutt" in the Kitschko bout for several hundred pages and then passed it off as a "joke" after being beaten as bloody as VITLAY? :rofl

    Must be gut wrenching to start an antagonistic thread and then get completely schooled by people with real knowledge of the subject matter.:D
     
  11. Radar

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    Hey Van, great to see you're stil around and educating the ignorant contingent at ESB. :D
     
  12. Muchmoore

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    The Golota fight was pretty sweet.
     
  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    To get more money? I think that the most money would be for Lewis to take the Tyson fight, beat him... win the rematch which would have been another huge payday. Then fight Holyfield himself, beat him... win that rematch, ect.... That would have been 4 huge fights for huge money. A lot more than the 4 mill that he accepted to step aside and stay in the backround. Had Lewis also beat Holyfield, Lewis would had been in line to unify titles with Michael Moorer as well. He could have just done so much more.
     
  14. Radar

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    Hey Window - you're 29. The year in question was 1996. I make that to be 13 years ago. Please tell me you don't get 16 out of those numbers. :lol:

    Bottom line? You're basing the usual crap agenda on ZERO knowledge. :yep
     
  15. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    or do what was meant to happen get the 4 million and then do exactly what you have just said and get all that cash plus 4 million which was the idea.