1997-2005, Calzaghe vs "The Ring" Top 10

His level of competition from 1997-2006 was absolutely pathetic, I think everyone agrees on that now. The vast majority of his career was utter ****.

 

Il say this....Calzaghe never faced an elite fighter in his prime....but It would have taken an elite fighter in his prime to beat him...as his work rate would have been very hard to overcome if you were old past yr best.


Also on the opponents listed in th thread.


Robin Reid - Was coming of a one sided beat down from Sugar Boy Malinga

Charles Brewer - was destroyed by Antwun Echols

Byron Mithcel - was a primature stoppage- was also coming of a loss

Richie Woodhall- was Kod by Keith Holmes in his previous match before facing Joe...


So not only did he face only four ranked opposition he faced them on the downside....pathetic


....OH didnt he face Eubank when he was semi retired....last min replacement for Steve Collins....

 

ooooh look what we have here - another hate calzaghe thread

 

I guess we can make this kind of analysis with all fighters even some ATG would have embarassing resumes...

 

You forgot to write in bold. A troll without their trademark is just another troll.

 

You think many ATGs only fought 4 top 10 opponents in 9-year title reigns? :huh

 

- ring comic

- its a shame calzaghe didn't fight robert allan 3 times

- would you have prefered him to call every welterweight that moved out?

- would you prefer it if calzaghe turned a career high pay day down to fight the legendary hakkar :rofl


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It'd have looked a hell of alot better had Hopkins not ducked him in 2002, I'll give you that.

 

Wasnt that the same book that Joe admitted he would go to the US to fight ROy Jones????

Robert Allen 3 times....no Joe faced MArio Veit twice LOL

 

From a business point of view, it would have made sense. High risk fight, moving up in weight possibly giving up his middleweight championship, for $3m? He made $2.75m against Felix Trindad, and having won that, could be in the position to demand a lot more for super fights.

He made $1.25m against Mourade Hakkar in a fight with very little risk, 2 fights later he made $1.125m fighting Robert Allen again. If he was making that much for defending his belt then it made sense to ask for more than $3m against Calzaghe.

De La Hoya by the time these negotiations came round had already moved up to 154 and won a belt. Having continued to move through the weight classes, it wasn't seen as an unrealistic option I'm sure that Hopkins could potentially faced him in the future. He probably had an eye on that and didn't want to miss out on that $10,000,000-$15,000,000 payday.

It's interesting to note also that Hopkins wasn't present at these negotiations and only had people there 'acting on his behalf'. May have been some sort of breakdown in communication beforehand on how much he actually wanted.

 

The sad thing is, fighting Robert Allen 3 times would actually do wonders for Calzaghe's resume. When Robin Reid is a top 5 win, you need all the help you can get.

 

Ring Magizine would favour the American fighters.

Sven Ottke vs Ring top 10

1998: Charles Brewer (#5)
1999: Thomas Tate (#6)
2000: Charles Brewer (#4)
2001: James Butler (#10)
2001: Anthony Mundine (#9 in 02)
2002: Thomas Tate (#6 in 01)
2003: Byron Mitchell (#6)
2003: Mads Larsen (#9, #7 in 02)
2003: Robin Reid (#10)

Bernard Hopkins vs Ring top 10

1994: Segundo Mercudo (#7)
1995: Segundo Mercudo (#7 in 94)
1996: Joe Lipsey (#7 in 95)
1997: John David Jackson (#9 in 96)
1998: Robert Allen (#7)
1999: Robert Allen (#7 in 98
1999: Antwun Echols (#5)
2000: Syd Vanderpool (#8
2000: Antwun Echols (#5)
2001: Keith Holmes (#6, #3 in 00)
2001: Felix Trinidad (#1)
2002: Carl Daniels (#8 in 01)
2003: William Joppy (#4)
2004: Robert Allen (#6, #2 in 03)
2004: Oscar De la Hoya (#2)
2005: Howard Eastman (#5, #1 in 04)
2005: Jermain Taylor (#1)
2005: Jermain Taylor (Ring Champ)

Joe Calzaghe vs Ring top 10

1999: Robin Reid (#9, #6 in 98
2000: Richie Woodhall (#8 in 99)
2002: Charles Brewer (#6, #5 in 01)
2003: Byron Mitchell (#6., #5 in 03)
2006: Jeff Lacy (#3)
2006: Sakio Bika (#8 in 07)
2007: Peter Manfredo (#10 in 06)
2008: Mikkel Kessler (#1)

 

That´s why he was rated behind even Sven Ottke at the time ... says enough.