1997 Lennox Lewis vs 2003 Vitali Klitschko

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  1. fists of fury

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    This is weird.

    Anyway, as stated, a younger, hungrier and overall better Lewis ought to take care of business in a more emphatic manner.

    A tough fight still, though.
     
  2. latineg

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    yes i agree with this :good
     
  3. Mendoza

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    I think Vitali's prime was later than 2003, but here's how I see the fight.

    Lewis was in fact KO'd twice early by punchers who can use the right hand in McCall and Rhaman. Vitali is a better fighter than either and also has a good right hand. Lewis fought few punchers with skill. Sure he and easily beat Tua, and Morrison, However he was KO’d by one punch by Rhaman and McCall. The " lottery " punch rang twice for Lewis, and Vitali is better than all four of these punchers who meet Lewis.

    Lewis had issues with good jabbers in Mercer, and Bruno. Vitali fits. He has a good jab. In fact he easily out jabbed Lennox in 2003.

    A past his prime Holyfield had a close fight with Lewis in 1999 that was rulled a draw. I thought Lennox won 7-5.

    Lewis was not known for late round TKO's. Tyson was stopped in the 8th( Tyson was very gassed, that's why ) , but did Lewis stop anyone in rounds 9-12? Not that I see, which means his power or stamina wasn't great late in fights. Could Lewis chin hold up for many rounds vs Vitali who proved he could take Lewis’ best hook and uppercut?

    Vitali is the better boxer. He was never behind in any fight. None of his score cards were close. Lewis pulled a rabbit out of his hat and was in some trouble vs. Bruno.

    Vitali throws more punches. He's got the better chin. According to box rec the fighter who throws more punches wins something like 80% of the time or more if there is no stoppage.

    The cut is the ONLY reason Lewis won. Cuts like that are flukes and happen maybe once in 100 boxing matches. It was Vitali's first cut in all of his amateur and pro boxing matches. In what other fight was Vitali badly cut as a pro? Zero.

    Prediction: Vitali TKO Lewis in 9
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    so.... vitali tko best lewis in 9..... based on worst lewis easily tko best vits before the halfway mark

    This can only mean one thing. We are approaching planet Kliturd.
     
  5. Mendoza

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    Vanboxerfan,

    That's because Vitali made Lewis look bad. Every think of that? Lewis said he was in fine shape and could be around for a while longer prior to this fight.

    Yet he was out punched, out jabbed, and swung and missed. Hurt, and marked up. And very tired after round 6.

    Lewis used to say he'd never fought anyone like me in the third person. Okay, true, but when he fought Vitali he was giving up height and HBO arm measurements had Lewis at 29", Vitali at 29.5"

    So Lewis never fought anyone like Vitali Klitschko.

    Later Lewis admitted Vitali was real tough to hit.

    If Kirk Johnson was in there, and Lewis won in 4, NO ONE says Lewis is shot. In addition one of Lewis' best performances ever was vs Rhaman at age 35. Lewis was 37 for Vitali. Lewis was a very good older fighter.
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Unless your are calling a cut stoppage which at least 30 to 1 in heavyweight title fights, yes. Who says that is the worst Lewis? It is not. You're a hater so I'll stop here.
     
  7. HerolGee

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    clearly the other 30 fights were against opponents who had some defensive skills. vits lacks top defence.
    kliturd self destructs once again.

    every boxer in history has been close to their worst at 37. All arguable content of the universe says so. except on planet kliturd.
    Kliturd self destructs once again.

    if I am a hater, then why did you even need to start?
    kliturd self destructs once again.
     
  8. Azzer85

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    So in a fantasy fight Vitali can beat Lewis because he's better than Mcall and Rahman?
     
  9. HerolGee

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    kliturd self dest....
     
  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you want lewis to drive him to the hospital?

    but I see the kliturd point of view - its lewis fault because he was punching vitali, you see. If lewis hadn't punched vitali, then vitali would have won the fight. Kliturd self destructs once again.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    The floor level to beat Lewis is Rahman and McCall.

    But I'm not picking Vitali because he's a puncher only. I think Vitali has the better jab, the better chin ( BY A MILE ) , better stamina, is harder to hit, and punches as hard as either Rhaman or McCall.

    That's why.
     
  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Except when Vitali actually fought Lewis he lost.
     
  13. HerolGee

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    kliturd self destructs once again.
     
  14. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Herolgee,

    Why not put together a case for Lewis besides your silly antics. You'd be taken more seriously here.
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    said the guy whose argument has been utterly destroyed by himself.

    why don't I counter? theres nothing left to counter after kliturd self destructed his own argument.