1997 Roy Jones easily beats any version of Rocky the BUM Marciano

Jones' power did diminish as he went up in weight though. I would not call him a puncher at 175+, although lower down he certainly was. Obviously Rocky couldn't afford to be totally reckless, but I just can't see Jones being able to put hurt on him.

As to your second point, I agree that Jones did have that ability to shut down an offense because that fighter was leery of being countered.
If the fight were to take place in center ring, things would be tougher for Rocky.
Naturally, he'd want Jones along the ropes or in a corner, where he could overwhelm him with power and strength.
This means that he would have to force the pace of the fight and try to not let Jones establish his timing, crowd him if possible and just be as physical as possible.
If anyone has the tools to do all these things, it is Marciano.

Punchstats really need to be placed in context, and I don't place too much emphasis on them without the necessary context.
However, 96 punches in the final round (assuming that is accurate) of a torrid fight does seem indicate that if he had to, Marciano could pour it on late.

I don't think there would be much respite for Jones unless he can shut down Marciano offensively, and personally I have grave doubts that he can.

 

jersey joe walcott not just was naturally much bigger than jones,( he was a natural 195 muscular pounder and jones was a natural 168 pounder, he never was even a natural lhw, he was packed of muscle at 175, his frame was small) but walcott was smarter, walcott did not have iron chin but he had a better chin than jones, he was much harder puncher than jones h2h, and he was a better boxer than jones (who was a great athlete but he was not as great at boxer), marciano would respect much more the blows from walcott than roy´s. jones would be like a fragile manthis vs a robust tarantula.

 

actually this fight would not be even competitive, rocky by brutal ko

 

Anyone know Marcianos punch stats in round 6 vs Archie Moore? One of the finest displays I have ever seen. Still gives me goosebumps watching it.

 

Dont ask Senya, despite his bogus punchstat numbers for Marciano he wants to pretend this fight didnt even happen.

 

Marciano would have hit whatever target was available on Jones...sheer physical strength and brutality would be Rocky's answer for everything Jones had to offer...until Suzie-Q landed on Roy's poor fragile mandible. Listen, I think Jones-Toney was sheer brilliance....Jones-Ruiz was just magnificent (against the most inferior heavyweight titlist that could be found) Jones-Marciano would be inevitiable devastation...Jones would be badly hurt...even crushed eventually.

 

Jones all day every day.

 

About 110. Finest displays of what? Of missing or just grazing the opponent with every 4 out of 5 punches at mid-range, despite having him hurt half the time of the round? Knocking an opponent down with a chopping blow to the back of the head?

 

You have several people on here who appreciate a guy absolutely beating the **** out of one of the greatest fighters in history (Marciano-Moore). Then you have Senya, who apparently would get giddy at watching someone dump a cripple from his wheelchair and beat him (Jones-most of his opponents).

 

excellent analogy :good

 

A riddle: What's the difference between Marciano and Ezzard Charles, Yvon Durelle and Floyd Patterson?
Answer: They didn't need to throw a hundred punches in one round to put Moore down.

 

When did Jones ever put a fighter like Moore down, or even share the ring with one?

Jones fans seem to be blind to the key weaknesses of their argument.

 

What does Jones have to do with my riddle? I described what was going on in the 6th round, with Marciano throwing a lot of wild hooks at mid range that either missed completely, or barely grazed Moore, his timing and accuracy were simply awful, he put Moore down with a chopping blow to the back of the head, and these things I have to admire?

 

Yes you should absolutely admire the fact that he beat a fighter like Moore. Furthermore, you should see it as being highly detrimental to your argument, on two separate levels.

Firstly because Marciano was beating the kind of fighters, that would provide the best argument of his beating Jones.

Secondly because Jones does not have a record to imply that he was better than some of Marciano’s victims, let alone a record to imply that he would be a likely conqueror of Marciano.

 

Jones is irrelevant here. He and Moore had completely different styles. Marciano beat a 38-year old light heavyweight. That's like admiring Samuel Peter getting a decision over 38-year old James Toney. Nothing much to admire.