1999 Lennox Lewis vs Sept 25 Oleksandr Usyk? How does it go?

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  1. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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  2. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Like he stopped Zeljko Mavrovic or Evander Holyfield? LMFAO!
     
  3. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lennox also could not put a dent in bums like Levi Billups and journeymen like Zeljko Mavrovic but he will KO Usyk, Joshua and Fury on the same night? You are mentally okay?
     
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  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It does matter, because said cruiser weights can and have KO'd heavyweights in a way even big punching heavyweights could / have not.
     
  5. Luis Fernando

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    Likewise, how can you say Lewis can KO Usyk when he could not even KO a bum like LEVI BILLUPS and journeyman like Mavrovic? It works both ways!

    If Usyk's chin wasn't tested, then guess what? Lewis's power also has not been tested ENOUGH to suggest he can KO someone at the caliber of Usyk EITHER. He could not KO a past-prime little blown up cruser-weight in Holyfield as well, similar in size to Usyk but inferior technically.

    Usyk's taken punches from Breidis, a guy who has KO'd a heavyweight in Manuel Charr, the same guy who Povetkin KO'd less brutally and Vitali Klitschko could not KO, two good heavyweight punchers. So yes, he absolutely has proven the ability to take heavyweight power as Breidis has proven he has heavyweight power without any doubts.

    Just because someone fights at heavyweight, does not by default mean they are more powerful than a cruiser-weight. Most heavyweight punchers could make cruiser-weight anyway to begin with, if they shed down their excess body fat like Dillian Whyte, Andy Ruiz Jr, Dereck Chisora and etc. IF he can take Gassiev's punches, he doesn't need to prove he can take Andy Ruiz's punches, when Ruiz without his excess body fat is no bigger than Gassiev and likely does not hit as hard.
     
  6. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Lewis has the physical advantages of course but the Cat is unlike anyone he faced. Make Lewis slight favourite.
     
  7. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Lewis would eat this lot like a Fat kid at a Birthday Party.!!!!
     
  8. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ couldn't carry Lewis's jock strap.

    It would be a great fight. Whatever happened, it wouldn't be one sided.
     
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  9. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not only am I “mentally okay” I also know boxing very well. Those 2 fights is not his best showings and I’m not basing my opinion on those 2, I basing my opinion on all the other fights where he came and destroyed his opponents.

    LL is Top 3 the best heavyweight ever, whether you like it or not.
     
  10. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Or maybe his opponent had played a part in not making him look his best. Ever considered that possibility?

    Please tell us which fight you are basing on Lewis being able to KO Usyk alone, much less Fury and Joshua on the same night? Please, that'd give us all a laugh.

    Tell us who Lewis KO'd, that was a:

    1) Southpaw

    2) Slick

    3) 6 foot 3, 220 + pounds (cruiser-weight sized heavyweight)

    4) Has never been KO'd before

    5) Throws as many feints as Usyk does every round.


    The only times Lewis has faced non-bummy opponents anywhere near Usyk in terms of physique, style and etc, he couldn't even drop such opponents in combined 36 rounds. And even then, those guys (Mavrovic and Holyfield) are still significantly different than Usyk other than in size and athleticism / output.



    So please tell us how Lewis KO's Usyk, when in combined 36 rounds, he couldn't even drop, or even put a dent in Holyfield and Mavrovic. Let's read your amazing reasoning here....

    And Lewis being top 3 heavyweight of all time is a non-sequitur. Being top 3 heavyweight does not mean by default, one is going to KO opponents with combined attributes they never ever KO'd, or opponents who are the closest to such an opponent.
     
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