1st Round - 140 Pound Tourney - Aaron Pryor vs. Beau Jack

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  1. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    15 rounds. Who takes it?

    If you don't give a reason for your opinion, your opinion will only carry half a vote :good
     
  2. teeto

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    Gruelling, but Pryor for me, sets that tempo,wont bother the immensely strong Jack too much, who will land bombs no doubt. Pryor is down, but finishes strongly, with the workrate and stamina enabling him to do the better work. Jack could get stopped,but not in my scenario.

    Pryor.
     
  3. Sweet Pea

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    Hell of a matchup. I think Pryor would serve himself well to use the angles more in this fight rather than attacking heads up, as Jack would've been every bit as strong and even rougher inside. I think if Aaron were to imply the stick and move, punch from all angles method he used against Arguello, he'd give Jack troubles getting set and would likely outland him. If he were to attack straight on, I'd probably favor Jack to roughhouse him on the inside for a Decision.

    As it is, I'll take Pryor in a close Decision.
     
  4. TommyV

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    Would certainly be a very entertaining fight. Two high volume pressure fighters going against each other, both very strong. I think Pryor will use his punches more wisely though, land at a cleaner percentage and set the tempo just above what Jack could. I don't think he will stop him though.

    Pryor UD over 15.
     
  5. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tough opening round match-up. I like Pryor, because of his speed and pace. Pryor may have to stay outside and use the jab more in this one.
    Pryor UD
     
  6. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thought Robert Mezey's poem about Beau Jack would be apropos here, ss:

    A GLIMPSE OF BEAU JACK

    Philadelphia, 1946.
    Night. My father and I are walking home
    along a pavement raked by swirling snowflakes
    wherever the wind kicks up. Having just emerged
    from under the beamed shadows of the El
    we cross to the Arena, heading home
    – to mashed potatoes, sisters, downcast eyes,
    anger and sullen silence – past the wall
    in which a door stands open and I see
    in luminous blackness hundreds of black shapes,
    heads and shoulders, the sides of faces silvered
    in swirls of smoke, the embers of cigars
    glowing an instant and then blacking out –
    far off in the black depths the source of light,
    the canvas square of ring circled by kliegs
    and a slim brown man who has a bigger man
    pinned on the ropes, digging blood-red gloves
    methodically, like a man chopping wood,
    into his ribs, the white skin splotching pink.
    Could I have seen at that distance the rocking
    and ripple of muscle under the bronze skin
    or did I just imagine all of this?
    It couldn’t have been much more than a second –
    my father was a very impatient man –
    but there it is, as radiant as just now.
    My arm was jerked hard, I was dragged away
    wondering desperately who the man was – then
    there he was on a poster, fists cocked, poised,
    smiling behind his gloves. I have forgotten
    the name of his opponent but not his name.
    I loved him, and I wanted what he had –
    not the jeweled belt, the title, money, fame –
    what could they mean to an eleven-year-old?
    No, what I wanted was the pride and power,
    prowness and speed and grace, and even more,
    fearlessness in the face of bigger men.
    And that most beautiful of names – Beau Jack.
     
  7. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. Minotauro

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    I think Beau Jack would win I don't think Pryor is disciplined enough to box for 15 rounds he'll box for probably 2-3 rounds, I could see Jack being one of the very few fighters to push Pryor back and maybe both guys score knockdowns but Beau out muscles him to a close decision.
     
  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Man, this is a rough one. I see Pryor picking himself off the canvas, then altering his style since he realizes he just can't fight Jack they way he did others. Staying alert and more outside, Pryor on a very close decision.

    Scartissue
     
  10. natonic

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    I agree with Scartissue. Pryor could box when he wanted to (or had to). I think he'd feel Jack's power inside and adjust. He was the superior boxer and Jack would take a lot of shot coming across the gap.

    Winner: Pryor UD
     
  11. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Jack can get this fight to go into the later rounds I think it will be very close on the cards because after an initial Pryor assault, Pryor will become more and more reticent to engage in full out war with Jack and Jack has the stamina and strength to go with him.

    Pryor won't be able to bull rush Jack the same way he did to Arguello and an old Cervantes, Jack is too strong for that, and will force Pryor to box a lot more. He will go for an assault in the early going, but when Pryor does get in range, Jack will often hold on and try and muscle Pryor to the ropes and pound the body. Pryor will take what he can get because Jack's defense is not the most solid either to the body or the head, but h won't sustain the action in the flow which he'd like.

    Can Jack take Pryor to the later rounds? I don't think he will. After being stunned in the early rounds, I see Jack starting to claw back some momentum and landing his fair share of punches in a wearing down process along the ropes, but ultimately getting caught and hurt with something big at some point midway through the bout. Pryor will go all out to finish him when he does. The bout will be on the precipice of turning into something hellish for Pyor if he doesn't stop him, but he will find just enough to finish Jack off and walk away the victor.

    Pryor TKO8
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great stuff mate. Thanks for that :good
     
  13. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beau Jack, 1944, before his knee problems, was a strong swarmer and volume puncher. He had beaten Bob Montgomery, Angott, Tippy Larkin, Allie Stolz, Fritzie Zivic, Armstrong, and Bummy Davis. He's got some serious scalps on his record and could be counted on to edge Pryor in experience and I'd say his mettle is more proven.

    Pryor was shockingly tough and enragingly unorthodox, but his style looked better against stand-up boxers than it would against a relentless whirlwind who would force him to dig deep and could be counted on to catch him during one of Pryor's infamous open windows.

    I'd go with Beau Jack. Decision over 15.
     
  14. Loewe

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    Beau JAck was far more proven than Pryor. Pryor´s myth is based on his fights with the smaller and past his prime Arguello. Pryor was a very good fighter but got overrated over the last few month. Beau Jack would be one of the few man who could push him on his backfoot and knock him down. Close fight but Beau Jack would win due to 2-3 knockdowns.

    Beau Jack UD15 Aaron Pryor.
     
  15. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have to go for Jack because I believe that he was more battle hardened. I just don't think the way Pryor wasted energy is going to do him any favours when in with a man who will match him punch for punch.