2 guys both same weight and speed, one is strong one isnt, do they hit with = power?

Does strength have a direct effect on punching power?

Or is it only speed and body weight that matters?

So if 2 guys were the same speed and the same weight but one had huge strength levels and the other one had average strength levels would the stronger guy have a stronger punch or would he have a punch that was exactly the same in power?

Ive seen guys who are fast that hit hard. (explosive)

Ive seen guys that are big and slow that hit hard (heavy handed due to heavy bodyweight)

BUT

Ive seen heavy handed guys that arnt fast and arnt that heavy too so they are not explosive but they are still heavy handed but not heavy in bodyweight, Im guessing they are strong and thats why they can still punch hard despite not having much bodyweight or speed?

What do you guys think/know?

Ive seen guys that are slow and relatively light hit harder

 

I was thinking the power equation dosnt factor in the direct force exerted via strength?

So speed x body weight = power, but strength dosnt fit into that equation but strength is still exerting direct force outside of that equation?

 

Earnie Shavers was a small relatively light heavyweight, and he wasnt that fast compared to other heavyweights either, yet he had the hardest punch of all time.

How can that be?

I bet he was as strong as hell!

 

Rocky Marciano wasn't particularly fast, and he was small, yet is famed for his punching power.

I think strength is one of the ingredients. Your body has so many moving parts... the way I think about it is that stronger people are able less elastic at the moment of impact than a weaker person. You've got all these moving parts, extending, rotating, and at the moment of delivery some of the impact could be lost.

I'm trying to think of a good analogy.... unfortunately all I have is this. Imaging a slow moving train - its weight is massive. If you're standing on the tracks, and it's coming towards you, not too fast - it'll stop right before it rolls over you, right at where you're standing, the front plate will be right up against your body.

Now, imagine two scanarios - one, there is a spring on the front of the train. It rolls up to you, the spring hits you, you get pushed back a bit by the spring, but you're not particularly hurt. Some of the force was absorbed into the spring, and while it springing back might send the rest your way, it slows down transfer of force from the train to you.

Two, there's a straight iron pole sticking out the front of the train. Even going slowly, when that thing hits you you'll get knocked back fairly nastily. None of the force will be lost, it'll be transferred to you completely and instantly on contact.

I'm probably using some terms incorrectly, it being such an incredibly long time since I did physics, but I thin you can think of the body in similar ways. If someone's got weak noodle limbs and a soft and feeble core, they might channel their mass correctly into the punch but because they're not "solid" at the point of impact, weaken the punch.

 

Lol I had to over simplify it because there are many other factors that contribute to power but I wanted to keep it specific to strength and whether it made a difference or not.

I dont think it is over complicated, the reality is extremely complex.

 

Great points, I didnt think about it in that way!

Thanks mate!