2 guys both same weight and speed, one is strong one isnt, do they hit with = power?

As far as Hearns, If you can drop a punch down, you can hurt guys. Pavlik, Hearns, the Klits, Lennox Lewis, maybe Corales: all pretty big punchers because of leverage, but guys like Williams smother there own leverage.

Wrists have a HUGE factor in punching. Biofeedback: a man who knows he is going to hurt his wrist learns how hard he can punch without hurting it. I could VERY easily punch someone so hard I would sprain or break my wrist, but I never do, because I know there is a certain level of force my hand can't take with a wrist under 6 inches in circumference, and when I throw KO punches my wrist hurts. Pac's wrist is EIGHT inches in circumference. I honestly believe that if he is actually physically stronger than me it is negligible (tougher is another matter), but I promise you he can throw punches much much much harder than I can without worrying about his wrist snapping.

 

:rofl:rofl Talking about irrelevant. I don't need your rambling elementary physics lesson,
I know the difference between mass and weight. It makes zero difference to what we're talking about and you wasted all that time typing that **** out. I hope it impressed someone else because it did nothing for me
You don't even know the definition of strength you ****ing spastic.
Are you actually claiming that a 200 pound made of fat man is going to have as much power as a 200 pound made of muscle man if they're throwing at the same speed?
You are absolutely clueless, read my explanation again. Then read it again. Maybe we can spark a synaptic connection somewhere in that empty coconut of yours

 

Through what mechanism could hand size produce power? No offence but that's completely idiotic.

 

Nonsense.
Nobodies afferent nerves can give that sort of information to the CNS, and that's not something that you're going to consciously know or learn. All the training boxers do to develop power desensitises the GTO.
What does wrist size have to do with bone density anyway? (Bone density would be a factor for breaking a wrist, I don't understand what bone size has to do with anything)

 

No I don't. That's a psychological issue, that's got nothing to do with wrist size. Do you think that everybody with small wrists is going to be worrying constantly about breaking them? No. And there's no reason they should because the size of your wrist has nothing to do with how sturdy it is or if you're vulnerable to injury or not.

 

I took about two years off once. Then I went back and hit the bag - but I forgot how hard I could hit safely and my two large knuckles on my right hand swelled up and disappeared in fluid, then my left wrist started aching. Then I remembered - I can't hit as hard as I want to whenever I want.

It is conscious. I have decided to hit a guy as hard as I can with one punch and knocked them out with a left hook, but fractured my wrist.

Completely conscious decision, and professional fighters who fight all the time SHOULD be aware of this if they have any selfawareness.

 

Interestingly, Manny Pacquiao has 8" wrists, while Wladimir Klitschko has 7.5" wrists. Klitschko hits about 10x harder.

7.5" wrists are very small for a 6'6, 245lb man.

 

Klit has all that leverage. It's not one thing, it's many things. and he is a strong strong man overall.

But there is a reason Pac can hurt welterweights when other lighweights can't. and of course a 250 lb man is going to be stronger than a 5'6'' 140 lb man.

 

It's so obvious there is a reason that Pac can throw like that over and over and over, KO shots, besides just his conditioning.

Floyd's only knockdown is from breaking his hand on a guys head (Carlos hernandez), and when he went after Baldomir in round one he hurt his hand and toned it down. There's a reason he doesn't go for the KO.

 

Klitschko hits just as hard as Tyson, he just wasn't as fast, and throws like 10% of the punches Tyson used to throw.

 

Wrist size has nothing to do with wrist strength. I see the point about biomechanical feedback, I limit my own power when hitting the bags due to this. I'm built more like Hearns (long legs, skinny arms, small wrist), but my grip strength is good (do pullups kids) and I can hit very hard for my weight due to the leverage I get into my shots. I've never thought about not hitting someone hard because of my wrists. People move when you hit them lol.

Power can be aided by strenght but there's a lot more going into it than strength, force, power, etc. The way you punch, your timing, the shots you select, the way ypou mix your punches...all of that has something to do with power. The way your body is trained to generate power has a lot to do with it. I used to play a lot of baseball as a kid, threw the discus and javelin, etc. I have a lot of rotational power when I whip shots in, but I haven't got a lot of pushing power. I think it has to do with years of training my body to generate force in a whip motion.

 

If the Head isnt in the Position it should be, you are not in a Driving Position, but a Falling one.