#2 Heavy right now?

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  1. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    He hasn't mentioned anything, apart for willingness to close by participating the 2016 Olympics (which is later confirmed that he won't be allowed to compete).

    I'm pretty sure that he will retire after 2015, maximum 1 fight in 2016 but I wouldn't bet on that.
     
  2. The Long Count

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    Yes an in shape Chisora may make a big difference. This is going to be a good fight. I saw Fury in NY against Cunningham and I was not impressed with his skills but he made up for it with his grit and determination. A big man like that with a willingness to take it is a tough nights work.
     
  3. Stallion

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    Chisora's style poses no threat to Wladimir. He has a good workrate, keeps coming forward with almost zero defense, he's slow and doesn't have much power or explosiveness. He'd be just a cannon fodder to Wlad.

    If he defeats Fury, then he deserves his title shot because he won the eliminator, but in all honesty, he is not a worthy opponent and it would just show where Fury ranks in the whole story (with that being said, I don't think that Chisroa will beat Fury). The Povetkin rematch poses far more of a threat than Chisroa despite the first Klitschko-Povetkin fight.

    Fury is bigger than Wladimir, but I wouldn't stay stronger. Would he be able to out-muscle Wlad? I don't believe that.
     
  4. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That version of Fury is a huge misconception.

    He's much better than that when he's on form.
    He just went for the KO against Cunningham and walked into the counters.
    Almost cost him millions.

    He did the same Vs Joey and got hurt a few times before finishing him off.
    If he sticks to the jabs, and keeps moving, he's a great boxer.
    He's also a huge mofo who can bully people on the inside if he has to.
    Plus, even though he's a fat slob, his stamina is incredible.
     
  5. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's got 3 inch on Wlad and weighs more 7kg - 15lbs
    The clinches? Fury's arms will be on top.
    He's got the leverage.
    Wlad has more strength sure, but not uphill.
     
  6. The Long Count

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    I've seen video outside of his Cunningham bout and he does seem to have good endurance and a decent jab. He probably was too ****y against Cunningham viewing him as cruiser and that he nothing to fear because he fought a bad fight that night and your right it nearly cost him big time.
     
  7. The Long Count

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    I think Wlad's next fight will be Jennings. Which is fair he is a legit top ten guy with a good fan base. A huge reach but I don't think Wlad will have too much trouble with him.
     
  8. Stallion

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    That's right, but Klitschko is a master clincher, don't forget that. :) They would be on about even terms in a clinch, which doesn't really benefit Fury.

    Not that it would be such an important factor in a fight. See Wladimir vs. Wach (also taller and heavier than Wlad).
     
  9. treeve

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    Stiverne is the 2nd best heavyweight around. I never considered Pulev skill to be that great. It was a Good win for Vlad, but it still showed that his skill level is way above the rest. The last fighter to get a combination on Vlad ended up winning. You cannot approach vlad with a simple 1-2 combo, Vlad sets traps and when they don't work he clinches and resets. It will take a fast counter punching heavyweight with a skill set that combines 3-5 punches to get Vlad out of there.
     
  10. Ilikeboxing

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    The difference from Wach to Fury is that Fury is pretty mobile himself for a big guy.
    Not as fast as Wald obviously but its usually Wlad who instigates the "rest holds" so it'll only play to Fury's advantage.

    Wach is just some giant, lethargic punching bag.
    Fury is a live opponent. 1 who's been 12 rds many times in the past with high output.
     
  11. Ilikeboxing

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    Fury has combos.
    Not powerful but he has combos in his arsenal.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Can you see Klitschko being caught with any of that nonsense, though?
     
  13. Ilikeboxing

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    I can see Wlad losing the clinch war.

    If that leads to him being hurt and then taken out by flurrie.
    Yeah.

    Its possible.

    Those giants have out of this world power.

    The blueprint for beating Wlad is rough-house tactics.
    Its not "sweet science" sure but it gets the job done.
    a barroom brawler like fury might just hurt Wlad, he's got the tools.
    Its just he's a stupid oaf who keeps walking into shots and his own jab.

    He's not out-boxing him, or out-speeding him.

    I think he's got the better inside game though, if the clinches are relevant during this fight Fury may just wear Wlad down, if he manages to do that and take it into the 2nd half of the fight I'd favour fury knocking him out with his superior stamina.

    Fury to me, is the "biggest" threat out there because he dosn't give a ****.
    A guy like that will have no problem going to War.
    Fighting dirty. Being brutal.
    Those are the things wlad hates.
     
  14. TSoprano

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    No problem going to war? :lol:

    He shat his pants against Ustinov and never fought someone his own size.

    Fury got knocked down against 2 featherfisted heavyweights who are originally cruiserweights. He has no chance against Wlad. That left hook landed on Pulev in the first would have knocked out Tyson Fury.
     
  15. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He never **** his pants, one of his family members got ill, and died soon after.
    Was the fight with Ustinov even switched to the title eliminator?
    Why would Fury risk an injury fighting a dangerous foe before a Title eliminator?
    He had no obligation to. That's not fleeing from a giant. Its saving yourself for the real task at hand.
    Being distracted by fights with meaningless foes is a stupid move by a professional boxer.

    Fury got knocked down, but he got back up and won the fight.
    Also, Fury's defense is much better than Pulevs.
    He's much more mobile and has head movement.

    Pulev is so good because he has a Jab, he's got nothing else going for him.
    Fury is a better boxer(more variation). Has a better defense. Stronger.

    If Pulev can hurt Wlad, Tyson Fury sure as hell can.