2 questions regarding punching power...

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  1. kirk

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    this is ****ing gold thank you
     
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    kirk be sure to checkout rossboxing.com it has some good beginners tips on strength straining for boxers.
     
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    Thank you relentless... i will def make sure to check it out. sounds familiar..
     
  4. JOSEY WALES

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    "Atilla" Old school stuff banging tyres etc will defo improve your power , as for the legs don't over do it building muscles up there as it will probably effect your agility , PS Is my suggested Atilla on the short list then ? lol Good luck kid . Regards Josey Wales
     
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    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    While much good avice is given here?

    By and large, Punchers are BORN not made:yep

    Though certainly following much of the advice within will help IMPROVE YOU AS A FIGHTER.:good
     
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    You know what, I was thinking.. this is true. It is an old saying. Because some guys just don't hit hard as some. Yet they still train the same.

    But you have to admit that ''being born'' with it is so vague..
    I mean in the end every punch is given with an arm, a fist, a twist in the hip and foot rotation.

    I think the famous mythbusters from TV should examen why and how this is possible:D Myth busted or myth confirmed?:good

    i.e. I just want to see how science explains this !!
     
  7. MattMattMatt

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    I was always under the impression that it is to do with natural ratios of types of muscle fibres that a person has (see here for info). To sum it up, there are fast twitch fibres (good for speed and power) and slow twitch fibres (good for endurance). Translated very generally into boxing, fighters with a high percentage of fast twitch fibres will hit hard/fast but will tire quicker and fighters with a higher percentage of slow twitch fibres will not hit as hard but will be able to maintain higher punch output.

    I'm not sure where the consenus opinion lies at the moment but I think it had been generally accepted that you couldn't change your naturally predisposed fibre ratio, but some people now believe that you can. I imagine it might be a bit of both, maybe you can't change the type of fibres that already exist but the ones added through training might generally be of the type that is most helpful to your body in your chosen sport.:think
     
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    i believe there are people who are born with the natural ability to coordinate all their muscles into focusing their power at the tip of their wrist. imagine someone throwing a golf ball underhanded at your chest. this will probably not hurt much. now imagine the same someone riding in the back of a pick-up going 50 mph and throws the same golf ball at your chest. you will probably have a broken rib. speed equals power and your punches speed should start at your feet, increase with your thighs extention, increase again with your trunks rotation and increase a third time with your arms extention. someone who can naturally make these three groups of muscles work in concert will undoubtedly deliver a much harder punch. you should be like a spring that is perfectly balanced and releases its energy at the tip of your knuckles.
     
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    You are brilliant dude. This GOT to be it. Person's with fast-twitch fibres have more snap in their punches and therefore/also punches faster.

    I had a few classes about this two years back so kind of lame I couldn't came up with this myself. If I remember correct you can change/switch fast-twitch into slow-twitch. But when that is done you cannot (ever) undo/return that.
    From slow-twitch to fast-twitch was only possible to a certain extend if I recall correct.
     
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    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I dont know, i remember reading sometime ago about how British scientists way back early 19th century studied Flyweight(112) Jimmy Wilde to find the source of his power as amassed nearly 100 Ko's.

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    Then there's shows like Sport Science that measures power delivered. Yet? What I ve seen true is YOU CANT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER:nono
    And its a combination of factors that make up Punching Power and ABILITY! It takes time and dedication in training to develop that ability, and make it really something in the ring. From the long, rangy, power of lennox lewis? To the short, compact, blast's by prime Tyson,!! And little guy's like Wilde with 99 KO's.

    I must say that there's some opinion that Wilde wasnt that good really that good. Based moxtly on the number of inexperienced guy's he faced and the lack of quality wins. But hey one of his losses was in the 17th Round of a Scheduled 20:cool:
     
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    The Core muscles improve punching and defensive movement.

    For the legs I am not so convinced which exercises are best but technique is probably most important but then the Pak-man video shows very fast punches that would all hurt but is he really using his feet correctly?

    I am thinking that a leg exercise that improves fast reflexes would be better than one that leads to powerful lifting but that would have to be tested
     
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    Here would be my test in most simple terms. Go to a big time boxing gym with Olympic grade punching sensors. Make 1/3 of the boxers do Ricky's leg press and make 1/3 play one on one soccer or basketball. Make the third group practice mostly technique. In one month check what group made the most punching improvements.
     
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    thanks guys.... much appreciated, im making my workout list now ;)
     
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    Thank you Mr. Wales...

    im not sure what you mean about the short list, but i appreciate you calling me Attila lol ;) :good :happy
     
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    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Kelly Pavlik blows that out the water. Thomas Hearns too, etc!! these are long, lean, punchers not the typical FAST twitch fiberswhich tear and build resulting in muscular growth. Slow twitch are rather the longer, leaner, more relaxed look.

    Every man has his own attributes and ability. The key is learning, PRACTICING, and working to make the most out of the package you're working with:good

    Its a COMBINATION of factors and hitting with force and acuracy and getting Ko's in the ring ar different things.