2 thoughts after re-watching the Jones-Calzaghe fight

Calzaghe dominated Jones for 11 rounds.

 

I stopped reading after that...Its clear that you are blind:hi:

 

Calzaghe is a good fighter, but people on here are over hyping him. He beat past prime Roy Jones! He even got KD by past prime Jones. Prime Jones would have finished him. People are still sleeping on Dawson. Dawson has what it takes to beat Calzaghe. Not saying he would beat Cal, but I give him a 50/50 chance at this point. Dawson beats Jones at this point too.

 

So he got KD by a punch ? or was it a forearm to the nose ?

 

Jones is just as shot as Tarver mate, moreso in my opinion. Jones - Tarver 4 is the only possible Jones fight that makes any sense, because they are both shot to ****. Anthony Hanshaw landed more punches on Jones than anyone up until Calzaghe (although half the scored Calzaghe punches didn't make direct contact with his face, and that probably goes for Hanshaw as well). That really shows how far he has fallen.

Roy isn't going to beat anyone above the B level anymore, and i wouldn't be surprised if he lost to solid B level fighters. Without confidence and work rate Roy is nothing as a fighter. Speed and power is ineffective without the will and aggression to use it.

People are acting like this is his first bad performance ever or something, i don't know what people are trying to play at but even before the Calzaghe fight, hell even 3-4 years ago, it was clear he was shot. A shot fighter is someone who consistantly performs on a level a long way below what they once were, it doesn't matter what is the cause (having handspeed and pop doesn't change anything, because his mental issues deny him from using it effectively).

 

Some very good points here.:good

Still, Roy is pretty much shot but not "finished", in the sense that he could still win a couple of fights vs lower level opposition. Calzaghe is still at a pretty good level and an exceptional fighter, plus he has the style (awkward + throws punches in bunches) to make a guy like Jones (can't throw more than 30-35 punches per round + has no reflexes left) look very bad.

But imo, Jones should retire right now. There's nothing left to prove, plus he got his last big payday vs Joe. He could still make a lot of money being a commentator or something else (i.e. trainer, promoter) in the boxing business. It was really sad to watch Jones get that kind of a beating, having in mind what he once was. :verysad

 

Excellent post mate.
But imagine if Jones fought Tarver, and Antonio managed to knock him the **** out again. Now, that's something I would HATE to see!
Roy please retire!!! :|

 

He's more faded than shot..he was still in great shape regardless....I HAVE SEEN jOE IN HIA Erlier fights, and he is still fast, but not like back then

 

Doesn't matter, it counted as a KD. My point though is prime Jones would have finished Cal. Roy doesn't have the killer mentality anymore. He hasn't since getting KO'd to Tarver.

 

Well I am sure JC could KD roy jones with a forearm smash to his nose it does ****ing matter.

Like the gamboa KD mattered that it was an elbow not a punch that knocked him down.


Refuse to have a battle of wits with unarmed men.

 

For a fighter that use to be as great as Roy once was and as physically gifted as he once was even a half step too slow could prove to be fatal. ROY DOES NOT HAVE THE GREAT FOOTWORK HE ONCE HAD THATS THE MOST OBVIOUS THING TO ME..:deal

 

Roy has no speed or power , he is and was done before fighting Joe..

Roys has never had one punch KO power even in his prime, his KO power came from the speed of his combination punching , velocity and accuracy , 6 years ago ,Roy was so fast, that he could link 4 to 5 power punches in a row then get out the way .. That ability is gone

Roy hit joe with power shots that had he been 6 year younger he would have followed up with 4 other power shots in a row.

Reflexes Gone - Roy was hit with flush shots he could see coming but was not able to move out of the way of, a sure sign of dulled reflexes 5 to 6 years ago fighter where lucky to hit Jones Flush more then 5 time row during a single round .

Stamina Gone . Roy no-longer has the stamina to keep up his high octane offense he was once capable of.

Legs Gone .. Gone is the speed foot work that was the key to Roys Offense and Defense working and clicking, he's nolonger able to close the distance to the target or move out of the way of danger.

Motivation Gone , what seriously motivated fighter wakes up at 7am to do road work?? Then follows that up with a morning meal of Grits susauges and Eggs???

Anyone looking at Roy's work out session could see it lacked intensity, Roy's workout resemble a retired fighter that just trying to staying in shape rather then fighting for a title.

The version of Roy going into this fight was a D- fighter Hopefully Roy gets out before his kids and family see him seriously injured .

Pavlic team is more then likely kicking them selves in the Ass right now, If Pavlic had not Fought Hopkins and waited for the out come of Joe Vs Jones , no Doubt the public would have demanded that Joe fight a live body in Pavlic , instead of a dead legend in Roy.

 

Dawson also has the skills and Dawson has the speed. He would have a speed advantage over Joe and a reach advantage and that's why Joe won't fight him...

Oh yeah...he has more power than Joe...Joe slapped Roy 344 times and not once did he even stagger Jones...

 

good post