20 best chins at HW ever

Of course. Foreman hit hard with even his 'slaps'. So to penalise him because a fighter has gone down from such, reeks of someone that desperately wants to believe that the best ever heavyweight weighed about 180 pounds. :yep

 

Good stuff. I divide the bangers into two catergories: thunder and lightning. Thunder comes from the heavy handed -Liston, Foreman, Hagler, Marciano, et al. It's like getting hit by a wrecking ball -you can see it coming so you don't go to the circus but it rumbles through you like thunder. Lightning is shocking and you don't see it. Hearns is the single best example here.

I see it on a continuum... Tyson and Jones seem to combine both.

 

Johnny Risko was fairly durable and Tom Sharkey could take
loads of punishment. Tom Heeney, the HARD ROCK FROM DOWN
UNDER was another guy with a tough chin.

Sharkey went the distance twice with James Jeffries.
Though, after his second fight with Jeffries, Sharkey was never
the same.



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By the time of the Marciano Moore and Cockell, Goldmen change the Rock's style from a banger to a swarmer to wear the other guy down. Before that, Marciano would often end a bout with one or 2 punchings. Layne, Matthews, Walcott are the ones caught on film.

I think Paycheck was done 3 times. Perhaps 4. The thing is Norton keep getting up. Paycheck stay down.

 

I guess you didn't see the "J/K" (just kidding) next to it.

 

Not 20, 15:

Ali
Jeffries
M Baer
Tua
Mercer
Chuvalo
McCall
Frazier
Marciano
Liston
Holyfield
Willard
V Klitschko
Cobb
Tunney

 

Frazier but no Holmes?

 

Louis had a good chin. It falls short of great. No one was taking Louis out with 1 punch. Schmling in order to ko Louis, had to BEAT him down first, and than out. I know evey one sees the fight highlighs and thinks Louis had a glass jaw. But when you see the complete fight, you would see Max was landed thsos types of shots all night. He wear Louis down and than out.
If all even one saw was the round ten of Doulas Tyson, people be saying Tyson had a glass jaw also.

 

I'm not saying Louis had a glass jaw, IMO its just average. He was a sucker for the right hand. If Marciano wanted to, he could have and would have taken Louis out much earlier in the fight, probably with his Suzie Q. He was just afraid to throw the trigger. In the 11th round he finally did, and well, you know the rest.

 

I think Jerry Quarry had an excellent chin, all the ability to take one on the chops that a heavyweight with a modicum of defensive skills could desire. However, was it really a top 20 chin? According to boxwreck.com, he was decked twice by Memphis Al Jones, dropped by Floyd Patterson, wobbled badly by Ali at the end of their rematch, looked ready to drop at the end against Norton, flattened and very unsteady in round one with Alexander, along with being dumped by Chuvalo. (Should George Chuvalo have been able to knock down somebody with an ATG chin?)

Yes, Quarry could recover quickly, did get off the deck to win, and stood up the best shots upstairs that Shavers, Foster and Lyle could generate but to say Jerry had a top 20 all-time chin? Perhaps he did, but I think his career needs to be scrutinized a bit more carefully before that conclusion could be finalized with reasonable certainty. (As the knockdown Jerry sustained in the Frazier rematch was from a bodyshot, that should not factor in to this consideration.)

Billy Miske might be a viable candidate for this list. It was only in fight number 80 that he was finally floored, in his heavyweight title shot against a near peak Jack Dempsey, in their third meeting. According to many reports, the three knockdowns Miske sustained at Benton Harbor were the only visits to the deck he made in his 103 recorded bouts. (As for the fact that Miske was afflicted with Bright's disease through the final 70 performances of his career, there are reports that the training process actually helped alleviate the symptoms of his condition until very shortly before the end.)

Another name which could supplement that of Miske is of his rival, Tommy Gibbons, who remained on his feet through the first 105 bouts of his career, before a peak Gene Tunney finally dropped a distracted (ill wife) and sub-par 37 year old Tommy into retirement at age 37.

 

No, sorry squire. I don't do 'American speak'.

 

Well, I can't argue against that as Paychek was twice the fighter Norton was.

 

Yes, Galento's chin had to be good, as he took quite a beating from Max Baer before being tko'd. It was a case of Galento being chopped up into hamburger, but Baer didn't deck him. As for Dempsey's power, well, all this modern day revisionism that goes on, Dempsey get's relegated to the level of a B-class cruiserweight all the time, and I think it's ridiculous. He had explosive, one punch type of power, and could end a fight, potentially, at any time. Archie Moore, on some program where a lot of old time fighters were being reviewed as to their power, stated that Dempsey was typical of fighters of his era in that he was an exceptionally physically strong man, and despite his relatively small size amongst the great heavyweights, ranks as one of the most explosively powerful fighters of all time. The damage he could do when given just a nanoseconds worth of an opportunity, was incredible. Just witness the Jack Sharkey fight, when he ended matters on a dime, despite getting the worst of it up until the end. As superior as Joe Louis was technically to Jack, I have always believed that Dempsey would have found an opening, a moment of weakness that he would have exploited for a ko victory. A serious reevaluation of Jack Dempsey needs to be done in the light of all these modern day "geniuses" who downgrade so many alltime greats with such impunity.

 

Yes I remember him,big blonde Belgian wasnt he?Fought in the 50s,around the time of Joe Weidin,and Hein Ten Hoff.

 

Louis
Ali
Holy
Holmes
give or take