20 Greatest Southpaws of All-Time (SURVEY) FINISHED AND UPLOADED!

no way is Pernell #1. this is a joke! He didnt have enough offense and even lost two title fights because his offense was too weak and was afraid of getting hit. just having a strong defense is not enough to make up for a weak offense

 

you impress way too easy

 

too bad it doesnt account for Pea's fear of getting hit, his lack of power, and even kicked out several of his losses. A piece of garbage

 

Hagler is first because his opposition was the best and he had the longest winning streak

even as a shot fighter, whipped Mugabi and while shot, outpointed multi talented SRL (but some corrupt judges gave the other guy the official win)

whereas Pernell lost his last several fights because he didnt do enough and was even stopped in another

and lost to Ramirez in his first title fight because of a lack of effort whereas Hagler got a draw in his first title fight

I'm pretty sure that had Pernell's first title shot come against Camacho, he'd have been embarassed because there is no way Pernell is going to outbox the much faster Camacho

and he CANT PUNCH so a knockout of Hector is OUT OF THE QUESTION! Pernell would be toast!

Pac is a top 5 contender but no way is he #1. I saw him get flattened, plus outpointed by Floyd in the big one

 

it's a fair assessment of Pernell and comparatively speaking, there are those who are better; some faster, others more versatile

For instance, imagine a declining Pea facing bigger, faster, harder punching, and younger opponent at his peak and very much capable of out boxing him or taking him out. What's Pernell going to do, run him down?
Pernell would only be capable of fighting defensively and hope to do enough to escape with a narrow points win. more than likely, he would lose to his younger, more gifted opponent

I know Pernell, he is a safety first fighter, looking to survive and is NOt the complete package.

In order to win, whether it be a major fight or a poll, he must rely on the generosity of judges and if you ask me, that statistical chart with those numbers and pie chart, looks very fishy to me

 

his won/lost % is high but not the best and wasnt weighted high enough

I really dont believe Pernel had the largest unbeaten streak. % wise, maybe but that's only because he didnt have that great a number of bouts.

also, when i look at the raw data, I see 3 of his last 4 bouts as losses including a tko loss. With that information included, that should bring his standing down considerably

That's why I placed Pernell at an honest 9 or 10 where he belongs

Hagler had a longer unbeaten streak, was much more versatile and tenacious. i just saw so much more in Hags than I saw in Pernell

and unlike Pernell, could punch

and unlike Pernell, fought with balls

Pernell had only one way he knew to fight; backwards and when faced with younger, faster opponents like DLH, it was then his limitations showed up and he showed he couldnt adjust

What would Pernell do if he got cut and was in imminent danger of getting the bout stopped on cuts? How would he cope? Or would he just settle for losing in a big money fight?

Pernell was a winner, it's just that he wasnt the winner Hagler was

Moreover, Pernell could never sell out a venue like Caesar's. even the general public could see he wasn't that high a caliber fighter. Unfortunately, many on this forum dont have the general fans more discriminating tastes.

 

I'm not saying you did but I'm wondering why his won lost % wasnt included

If the poll is off, it's only because the members who participated, got it wrong

as Boxing wanna be experts, the members are to pugilistic science what Darwin was to science but the fact is, Darwin was not a scientist, but a Med school dropout and had no credentials whatsoever

remember, these are the same people who were actually awed by the fistic feats of Marlon Starling

I'm sure these are people/fans who just "grew up watching Pernell", catching just a small sample of what's really out there

And that is why Pernell was and is, overrated. vastly overrated

Thankfully, the general sports fan were able to properly evaluate him, which is why he never made it to the big stage

I would classify Pernell as a defensive cutie with a solid record

but to be great, you have to go the extra mile and I dont think Pernell did that

Had he gone near the Camacho of the mid 80s, Pernell would've been CRUCIFIED; thoroughly confused, slapped around, embarrassed, and maybe even humiliated

his career all but over

Oh sure, he would've gone on with a successful career with wins over the likes of Azumah Nelson, Greg Haugen and even JC Chavez but always knowing he was second best