20 Second clip that illustrates beautifully the speed of Frazier's pressure

I think it's an excessive statement, but i'd like to quantify it.

I think Ali is a touch ahead of the other HW's in terms of how good, and how dangerous h2h. He has Louis for company. Then, there is a secondary clutch, guys who were pretty amazing but would all lose fights against the right oposition, Lewis, Liston, Frazier.

I think Frazier is the most interesting one to remark upon because he could never sustain that level of competition. All the other guys mentioned, could. Frazier would get busted up if he was seeing out a career at that type of level in a way Ali never would be. But that version of Frazier, the peak Foster, Ali version, he's dynamite, and he sometimes gets underestimated on account of what came after Ali I.

Frazier is one of only two men I pick over peak Ali. I don't think he loses to anyone he reaches the cards with (Holmes, Holyfield, and Lewis, perhaps) and I think he could knock a lot of great fighters out. Sot it's only those weird, stylistic no-no's that see him off (Foreman and perhaps Tyson, Liston and Lewis).

So not untouchable, but a ****ing monster none-the less.

 

He had a "crook" in his left arm too, he couldn't extend it properly.

 

Yeah, I like it.

I'm interested in the differences too though. Demspey likes to get set just out of range and then begin his "negotiatons" (nicely put), Frazier isn't interested in establishing something first, especially something that is sometimes further away (you see Dempsey do this v Willard, too). This is because Dempsey is rellying upon speed more than physical positioning.

I also think there is parity between these two as regards their brilliant timing for an all out assault, something that is only demonstrated in shadows in this video, because it is sparring.