2001 Bernard Hopkins vs prime Jake Lamotta

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  1. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would pick LaMotta. Hopkins hated to fight at a fast pace, and I can't see Hopkins keeping him at bay, either.
     
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  2. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see the fight with hopkins footwork and defense and counter punching slowing jakes workrate down.
    and losing a UD
     
    HeavyweightCP, Jul 11, 2013
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  3. heavy_hands

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    :rofl THIS, THIS GUY IS A COMPLETE ******ED. hahaha robinson was past his prime.. lmao what a *****, he is a parrot answering his own thread 2000 times trying to convince anyone of this stupid opinion
     
    heavy_hands, Jul 11, 2013
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  4. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You know? Robinson was a Natural Welterweight right.

    Thats like like saying Duran was at his best at 147.


    :-:)-:)-:)-(
     
    HeavyweightCP, Jul 11, 2013
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  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Edge LaMotta for offense, edge Hopkins for defense. Hopkins on points.
     
    OvidsExile, Jul 11, 2013
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  6. heavy_hands

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    robinson was a welter when he faced lamotta. and he was in his absolute peak... he was fighting iin the middleweight class but he was a welter on the ring.. check his weight... so your example of duran is absurd here.. you said that robinson was past his best when he faced lamotta, and it is ignorant and ridiculous , period... you did start this thread saying that hopkins would destroy lamotta, you lost any credibility since that you said this crap.
     
    heavy_hands, Jul 11, 2013
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  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I cant see Hopkins outworking LaMotta even in his prime.
     
    ETM, Jul 11, 2013
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  8. gentleman jim

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    I went back and checked laMotta's record and opponents and came away impressed to say the least. Robinson, Zivic, Bell, Williams, Marshall, Satterfield, Janiro and Cerdan round out a pretty impressive resume for a MW champion/contender. Now compare that to Hopkins' MW competition and you have to wonder how anyone thinks Hopkins rolls over LaMotta....let alone even wins. Maybe h2h Hopkins has what it takes to beat Jake but it's no walk in the park no matter how you look at it. LaMotta fought in a MW division that was ridiculously fertile with talent. Hopkins didn't and that has to be taken into account here before people dismiss Jake's chances.
     
    gentleman jim, Jul 12, 2013
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  9. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I feel Hopkins footwork counter punching and overall game plan would get him the W vs Jake Hopkins did fight in a weaker era but he is good or better as any fighter you listed.

    I will say Robinson is the GOAT
     
    HeavyweightCP, Jul 13, 2013
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  10. Stevie G

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    Hopkins outboxes Jake and gets a decision. Bernard would negate La Motta's agression with his countering.
     
    Stevie G, Jul 13, 2013
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  11. Bummy Davis

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    Hopkins no Robinson...I like Jake and his work rate to UD B-Hop over 15
     
    Bummy Davis, Jul 13, 2013
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  12. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    makes no he a welterweight fighting middleweights.

    that like saying mayweather at his best at 147 fighting at middleweight he still at his peak.
     
    HeavyweightCP, Jul 13, 2013
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  13. heavy_hands

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    robinson weighed 144 pounds when he lost against lamotta, he was even under the welter limit. of course that he was in his peak ,stupid, simply he was fighting a man who was naturally bigger and heavier, but robinson was in his peak, he was 22 years old.in the next fight with lamotta he weighed 145 pounds, he was under of the welter limit again and he did beat lamotta.
     
    heavy_hands, Jul 15, 2013
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  14. Mendoza

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    Hopkins had trouble with speedy fighters. Lamotta to me is a bit over rated. He did not hit that hard, and had just solid skills. Toughness was Jake's forte, but when matched vs a skilled counter puncher like Hopkins, I think he losses on points.
     
    Mendoza, Jul 15, 2013
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