2010 -- A Tough Year For Hyped American Boxers

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  1. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While the international influence of The Sweet Science continues to grow -- evidenced by the Klitschko Brothers, Manny Pacquiao, Sergio Martinez, David Haye, Jean Pascal and numerous others -- 2010 has been a relatively tough year for their American counterparts, particularly those who seemed to be on the path to greatness.

    There are exceptions, of course, such as Andre Ward, James Kirkland and Tavoris Cloud. While Ward is gaining recognition for his success in the Super Six tournament, he is still not widely known to the casual viewer and the rap that he will only fight in his hometown of Oakland, California doesn't seem to be winning over any skeptics.

    Cloud and Kirkland remain largely unknown beyond boxing circles. Hopefully they will gain more prominence as their careers continue.

    Three fighters typify the difficult year for American boxing: Daniel Jacobs, Chad Dawson, and Paul Williams.

    * Daniel Jacobs

    Jacobs, a middleweight from Brooklyn, was on a fairly fast track for stardom. Possibly a bit too fast, in hindsight, after his handlers set up a July 31, 2010 match against Russian Dmitry Pirog.

    Pirog systematically broke down the talented Jacobs en route to a dramatic 5th-round KO victory on the undercard of the Juan Manuel Marquez-Juan Diaz II event.

    * Chad Dawson

    No less than Floyd Mayweather, Jr. had recently proclaimed Chad Dawson as the best pound-for-pound fighter in the sport. Critics weren't so high on the super middleweight, however, because of what they felt was Dawson's ducking of fighters such as Cloud and Adrian Diaconu.

    Still, the talented light heavyweight was sought after by both Showtime and HBO. There appeared to be a kind of unspoken feeling that Dawson could be "The Next Big Thing" in American boxing, possibly a replacement for when Floyd Mayweather decided to hang up his gloves for good.

    Unfortunately for the former champion, such dreams were halted on August 14, 2010. Jean Pascal outboxed and outfought a timid Dawson, whose attempt to come on late in the fight proved for naught as Dawson suffered a bad cut and a technical decision loss in the bout.

    * Paul Williams

    The most recent hyped American prospect to suffer a 2010 setback is the formerly "Most Feared Man In Boxing," Paul Williams.

    Williams, a lanky southpaw who fights between welterweight and middleweight, has been widely heralded as one of the best fighters in the sport. And deservedly so. But like Dawson and Jacobs, 2010 proved to be the year when the Williams train hit the proverbial wall.

    In a rematch of their classic first encounter, Williams and middleweight champion Sergio Martinez squared off this past Saturday, November 20th, in Atlantic City. Many boxing scribes who felt unsatisfied after the Pacquiao-Antonio Margarito bout the week previous circled this fight for their readers, proclaiming that it showed what was right and good in the sport, and that it was likely to prove more competitive than the Pacquiao domination just witnessed.

    Sadly, that was not the case. As Martinez would tell anyone who would listen beforehand, he was confident that he would stop Williams in the rematch. And, in the second round of the bout, he did just that with what is likely to be regarded as the "Knockout Of The Year" by fans and writers.

    In truth, Martinez had been more dominant than had Pacquiao against Margarito. Pacquiao nearly went down from body shots in his own fight, whereas Martinez was never slightly fazed against Williams.

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    Here's hoping that 2011 will prove better for the USA's crop of professional fighters. For those who say that the best American talent is off playing football or basketball, the rest of the world may be looking on to America and thinking: "We don't know where they are, but they don't seem to be boxing."

    Time will tell.

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    Other Americans with a tough 2010: Kelly Pavlik

    Other Americans who thrived in 2010: Tim Bradley

    Status unknown: Floyd Mayweather, Jr. (Vacationing? Retired?)
     
  2. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    dont get how three fighters is tough but ah well.
     
  3. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes true but so many Americans fighting and only the best of the best form overseas come to fight in America. So it is very akward to know in fact how true it is but yes overall it was rough. Problem is many people hype up fighters before they get tested.

    What was learned is you need balance. Power, boxing skills, chin and ring smarts and prime competition. All these guys lacked one of those or more and nothing should be a surprise when you are not a complete fighter. I truly believe Floyd lacks a few of those while he is absolutely amazing at the ones he is not lacking in.
     
  4. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The biggest surprise for me was Dawson. He really got exposed pretty badly by Pascal, IMO. The same Pascal whom Froch beat.
     
  5. kirk

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    Could you please explain to me, without lame and tired excuses and watering down of his resume, how Williams, with wins over Quintana, Margarito, Wright, and Martinez, who was scratching some p4p lists, who is a multi weight contender for years now, and a former actual champion,

    is considered a 'hyped prospect'.
     
  6. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always said Dawson is overrated. You just can't expect to outbox everyone with all the new strength training and ppl going for KO's because of $.
    PPl want knockout more than ever because of boxings competition from mixed martial arts. Power is needed in the 21st century more than ever.

    Dawson has no power. Nothing on his punches. Froch now in with a guy that is one of the most heavy handed fighters in the sport today. AA wastes few punches has a sick guard and is in against a B rated boxer who is great at nothing. All the right critieria for an easy KO by arthur.
     
  7. LastQuark

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    Of course, what would you expect from a fighter that is 17 lbs heavier than you are. Williams came in lighter than Martinez.
     
  8. lONGCOUNTED

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    I still don't understand what people saw in Dawson. He was definately a hype machine much like Andre Berto is now.
     
  9. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    A chunk of the hype was because of what Adamek's done after Chad beat him. Kind of like what happened with Donaire.
     
  10. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chad had alot of promise, but he never seemed to get any better.

    I figured he would be derailed at some point, and I actually liked the guy.
     
  11. silly_illy

    silly_illy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After the war's with Tarver ...Dawson was never the same .:verysad
     
  12. JohnAnthony

    JohnAnthony Boxing Junkie banned

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    Just cos someone oses a fight their not hyped.

    So by your logic, Pirog and Jacobs fight for a belt. Both young prospects. The Winner is Campion. Who ever loses is hyped.

    Rediculous theory, it's that kind of attitude that's bad for boxing.
     
  13. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Certainly.

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    The picture, and the result, doesn't square with the hype of being the "Most Feared Man In Boxing." Following this devastating result, that title is not likely to ever be applied to Paul Williams again.

    As far as being a prospect, everyone who hasn't reached the pinnacle of the sport is a prospect. That is, there is the possibility that they could become, say, the face of the sport. Or the top pound-for-pound fighter.

    Many felt that Paul Williams had this potential, even after the loss to Quintana. And even after the first Martinez fight highlighted some of Williams' weaknesses.

    I'm not saying Paul Williams can't or won't come back from this loss. But the hype of him being incredibly feared, and his prospects of being a Floyd- or Manny-type fighter, have been diminished because of the emphatic nature of this loss. He's still trying to find a fan base, still trying to build a name to casual fans. This isn't Duran getting leveled by Hearns, this is a guy who was/is still trying to find his niche in the sport, even with all his success.
     
  14. H .

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    :huh
     
  15. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    There have been quite a few upsets this year. We should have had one more with Alexander-Kotelnik.