2010 International Boxing Hall of Fame Nominees

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  1. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe this will be out sometime this week, But I just want to post this here to let you all know before it does. There could be a few more names added before the Official list comes out, if they do, I will up-date this list for you.

    2010 International Boxing Hall of Fame Nominees in the Modern
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    The voters can pick up to 10 boxers, But only the top 3 will be Inducted:

    What are your thoughts?

    First Time Nominees​
    1. Julio Cesar Chavez
    2. Kostya Tszyu
    3. Mike Tyson

    Return Nominees ​
    4. Horacio Acavallo
    5. Georgie Abrams
    6. Joey Archer
    7. Jose Becerra
    8. Johnny Bratton
    9. Jimmy Carruthers
    10. Donald Curry
    11. Hiroyuki Ebihara
    12. Tommy Farr
    13. Tiger Jack Fox
    14. Ceferino Garcia
    15. Betulio Gonzalez
    16. Yoko Gushiken
    17. Naseem Hamed
    18. Carlos Hernandez
    19. Harry Jeffra
    20. Rafael Herrera
    21. Al Hostak
    22. Peter Kane
    23. Cocoa Kid
    24. Pone Kingpetch
    25. Tippy Larkin
    26. Santos Laciar
    27. Jose Legra
    28. Miguel Lora
    29. Raul Macias
    30. Ernesto Marcel
    31. Freddie Mills
    32. Rinty Monaghan
    33. Masao Ohba
    34. Sven Ottke
    35. Ken Overlin
    36. Gustave Roth
    37. Lou Salica
    38. Dave Sands
    39. Petey Scalzo
    40, Samuel Serrano
    41. Yoshio Shirai
    42. Kid Tunero
    43. Wilfredo Vazquez
    44. Myung Woo Yuh
    45. Hilario Zapata
     
  2. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Tyson
    2. Caruthers
    3. Sands


    4. Overlin
    5. Cocoa Kid
    6. Kingpetch
    7. Marcel
    8. Chavez
    9. Hamed
    10 Tszyu

    though i would like to see some people put up cases for some of the others.
     
  3. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I really can't tell you how I am voting because I have been Officially named the Boxing Historian of the Boxing Writers Association of America, But I do agree on about 50% of your choices.

    Here's the letter that went out to all the BWAA members:

    Joining the process will be Henry Hascup, who serves as the President of the New Jersey Boxing Hall of Fame and is on the board of directors of Ring 8 among, other things. Henry has graciously offered the BWAA his services as a resource historian, much the way Hank Kaplan did when he helped many writers until his death. Like Kaplan was, Hascup is one of the foremost historians in the world. He also has vast archives that he will share with us for research purposes when we are writing a story, etc. Hascup will be available to help BWAA members throughout the year. He can be reached at
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  4. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Would like to see Johnny Bratton and Cocoa Kid make it in - and Tommy Farr
     
  5. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah, i meant to include Farr in my list, not sure why I accdidentally left him out.
     
  6. Bobby Sinn

    Bobby Sinn Bulimba Bullant Full Member

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    Tszyu
    Carruthers
    Sands

    That will do.
     
  7. The Pup

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    Your a legend Hascup, great to have a historian of your caliber on these forums teaching us "pups"
     
  8. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Huh. I actually thought Yuh had gotten in. I figure JCC and Tyson must get in. Their popularity was so immense. Tyson may not be rated close to Chavez in number of achievements but he was easily one of the most popular and/or notorious sports figures on the planet for years. I'd like to say Garcia, with the guys he rumbled with...shame he isn't in already after all this time. Some of these guys I'm just not familiar enough to speak on but it's also surprising to me Zapata isn't in yet. Tszyu was certainly a fine champion, but I feel like he can wait for the likes of Cocoa. KT is not a guy I just assume gets in the first year of his eligibility, no disrespect.
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Mike Tyson
    Myung Woo Yuh

    I'm not biased.
     
  10. teeto

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    I would like to see shitloads of them in the hall, an impossible question for me to answer.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    Not the strongest class. I think Tyson and Chavez should get the call. Maybe Zapata
     
  12. TommyV

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    Tyson, Chavez and Cocoa for me.
     
  13. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I figure Tyson and JCC are probably locks. Only the top three moderns will be inducted?

    For who the third modern candidate to be inducted might be, I sneaked a repeat glance at the Ring Magazine BHOF. In the Ring's modern group are three names remaining that are not in the IBHOF: Gus Lesnevich, who is not on the nominee list Henry has provided, Yoshio Shirai and Ceferino Garcia.

    Of the latter two, Ceferino, with the bolo punch, his MW title winning knockout of long time IBHOFer Apostoli, dominant back to back wins of a then young and now newly minted IBHOFer Lloyd Marshall, and handing Baby Joe Gans two of his four career knockout losses, in addition to several other wins over opponents with impressive winning records, might give Garcia an inside track with the voters, depending on how much weight the Ring listings carry. (Based on the fact that only three modern names there remain excluded from Canastota, I'd say a great deal.) Adding Ceferino would also bolster the stature of Ross and Armstrong even more, if that were at all possible.

    Cocoa Kid is not to be found in the pages of Fleischer's record books (at least not the 1957 edition), but Tiger Jack Fox is, remarkably enough. (Even Bivins didn't get his record listed by Fleischer.) Jersey Joe Walcott's testimonial concerning Fox may tip the balance in Tiger Jack's favor if it comes down to either of these two as the candidate for the third and final slot.

    Joey Archer would certainly be the most educational choice for young fans and boxers, somebody who went a long way on the fundamentals of movement and a great jab. An induction might also bring him out of hibernation to attract the curious. However, he doesn't quite have the depth of resume and credentials Betulio Gonzalez and Zapata have.

    After Tyson and JCC, I suspect that voters might feel compelled to look to the more distant past and a posthumous selection. Ceferino would seem to be the safest, most conservative choice to chose from the 42 return nominees. He may be the most overdue among any of them.
     
  14. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Great thread. I agree with what many on here feel too, Tyson & Chavez are locked. I'm a fan of Tszyu too but to be fair someone like Yuh, Gushiken, Cocoa Kid, etc. should get in before he does. I wouldn't mind for my boy Curry to get in but MANY on that list deserve to get in before he does.
     
  15. Boxed Ears

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    I can't wait to see how Martinez/Williams II turns out. :bbb:bbb:bbb