2010 vs 2019. Is Heavyweight boxing better?

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  1. Mendoza

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    2010 Ring Magazine annual ratings [url]Wladimir Klitschko[/url], Champion

    1. [url]Vitali Klitschko[/url]
    2. [url]David Haye[/url]
    3. [url]Alexander Povetkin[/url]
    4. [url]Tomasz Adamek[/url]
    5. [url]Ruslan Chagaev[/url]
    6. [url]Eddie Chambers[/url]
    7. [url]Denis Boytsov[/url]
    8. [url]Nikolay Valuev[/url]
    9. [url]Alexander Dimitrenko[/url]
    10. [url]Chris Arreola[/url]
    vs

    2019 Ring Magazine current ratings at the close of the year

    No champion

    1.Fury
    2. Wilder
    3 Joshua
    4. Whyte
    5. Ortiz
    6. Ruiz
    7. Povektin
    8. Parker
    9 . Hunter
    10. Kownacki



    The match ups.

    1.Prime Wlad vs Fury now, Wlad wins
    2. Vitali Klitschko vs Wilder. Vitali wins
    3. Joshua vs Haye. Joshua wins
    4. Povetkin vs Whyte. I go with Povetkin
    5. Adamek vs Ortiz. Ortiz is very old and slow now. 50/50
    6. Chagaev vs Ruiz. Based on how fat he was in his last fight, Chagaev wins.
    7. Chambers vs Povetkin. - At this point I'd side with Chambers due to Povetkin's age
    8. Boytsov vs Parker - Parker wins this one
    9. Valuev vs Hunter. Valuev wins
    10. Dimitrenko vs Kownacki - Kownacki wins.


    Tally

    2010 6 wins
    2019 3 wins
    One 50/50 match.

    *Arreola booted out as 2010 has one more ranked fighter.
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Wlad beats Fury
    2010 Vitali beats Wilder
    Prime Povetkin stops Joshua
    Whyte polaxes Adamek(whilst down on points)
    Chagaev beats Ortiz
    Chambers beats Ruiz
    Povetkin bowels Boystov over and beats him like drum
    Parker UD12 Valuev all day long
    Hunter beats Dimi. He's just better.

    5-4 in 2010s favour imo. One guy who only loses to Wlad imo, is Usyk. He beats the rest imo. He should definitely be mentioned in here.
     
  3. PernellSweetPea

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    What year was Ibebuchi mainly? mid 1990s? I always thought was a guy who could have gone all the way and stayed there for a while. Lennox was more fluid, but Ibeabuchi was strong and durable.
     
  4. Gazelle Punch

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    I don’t think Fury loses to any version of Wlad. Vitali v Wilder is the best matchup. Def see Vit winning rest I agree with except fat Ruiz losing.
     
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  5. TipNom

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    Fury
    Vitali
    Joshua
    Ortiz
    Ruiz
    Povetkin
    Parker
    Hunter
     
  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Errrr ok then. Complete Tangent.
     
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  7. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair if you add Uysk and Pulev replacing Hunter, it has the potential to be quite a strong one it’s just a shame more of these guys haven’t fought each other. Hopefully 2020 will see a lot of these guys duke it out.

    With that slightly revised list I’d pick as follows

    Wlad - although you could easily make a case for Fury
    Vitali
    Joshua
    Whyte
    Ortiz - Chagaev has a pretty good shot though
    Ruiz
    Povetkin
    Parker - Valuev has a good chance though
    Pulev has already beaten Dimitrenko
    Uysk to beat Arreola

    So with my slightly revised list, I have it 8-2, a pretty resounding win for the modern era.
    6-4 if I gave the 2010s the benefit of the doubt in the close fights
     
  8. PhillyPhan69

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    did you boot Haye? Along with Arreola? Because if so that can change the picks and outcome.
     
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  9. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The order for 2019 matters as well....

    I would pick Wlad over Fury, but Wilder over Wlad...where against Vitali I would pick the opposite...Vitali beats Wilder and Vitali Fury 50/50 for me at the minute.
     
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  11. janitor

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    2010 has better men in the top three, but 2019 has a better and deeper top ten.
     
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  12. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rather than typing all that why not just say you liked it better when Eastern Euro guys dominated ??
     
  13. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why didn’t you invest them precious 10 seconds more wisely instead of pointing out something painfully obvious.

    I’m kidding.... well sort of lol. I already knew before reading where this one was going
     
  14. janitor

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    To expand upon my observation a bit further:

    I think that it is highly unlikely that any of the current crop of heavyweights could compile a resume to rival that of Wladamir Klitschko, and I think that all of them look a lot more beatable than Vitally Klitschko. I also think that a prime Povetkin could be very successful if he came along today.

    When you get to the lower half of the lists, I find myself liking the modern guys better. I think that Ruiz, Povetkin, Parker and Hunter are of a higher caliber than Boytzov, Valuev, Dimitrenko and Areola.
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    That was a mistake. Fixed it


    The match ups.

    1.Prime Wlad vs Fury now, Wlad wins
    2. Vitali Klitschko vs Wilder. Vitali wins
    3. Joshua vs Haye. Joshua wins
    4. Povetkin vs Whyte. I go with Povetkin
    5. Adamek vs Ortiz. Ortiz is very old and slow now. 50/50
    6. Chagaev vs Ruiz. Based on how fat he was in his last fight, Chagaev wins.
    7. Chambers vs Povetkin. - At this point I'd side with Chambers due to Povetkin's age
    8. Boytsov vs Parker - Parker wins this one
    9. Valuev vs Hunter. Valuev wins
    10. Dimitrenko vs Kownacki - Kownacki wins.


    Tally

    2010 6 wins
    2019 3 wins
    One 50/50 match.

    *Arreola booted out as 2010 has one more ranked fighter.
     
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