2011 Fight

just let it go dude, no reason for such a 20 page ***** thread. Its all been done lots of times now.

 

Pacquiao has faced skilled, athletic boxers with speed. Cotto, Marquez, Morales, Barrera, are slow, unskilled?

What you MEAN is that he hasn't faced an american black boxer with "slickness" or whatever the **** you call it. don't hide it, that's what it is.

Shut up.

 

You've been pretty cool these past few months, darryl, but this is a bull**** thread.

 

If you dabbled with steroids that eliminates you IMO so sorry Shane Mosley, Evander Holyfield I can never consider you HOFer or ATG and as far as I am concerned your scum!

 

My god....can't you people find other things to do than hate on other people. You are only hurting yourself with the contempt bud.

 

I see a shitstorm coming boys, get the boats in.

 

To put it short and to the point...... NO.

I won't even bother answering in detail every point in your arguement because because they have already been argued to death.

Daryl, this has got to be one of your worst posts ever. You scrutinize every missing detail in a boxer's career yet fail to acknowledge even one positive note. The truth is you can scrutinize every boxer's resume.

Pacquiao has 7 and maybe soon to be 8 titles in 8 different weight classes. He has titles in 4 of the original 8 weight classes. Henry Armstrong, who is ranked #2 by some in ATG rankings and has a catchweight title fight, has 3 titles. He has wins over future HOF's in Barrera, Morales, Marquez, De La Hoya, Hatton, and Cotto. That is why he is an ATG.

Boxing fans criteria have not changed. Most fans have Pac in around the same ranking as the boxing insiders. Only the nuthuggers have him too high and the haters have him too low. It all evens out.

 

Yep.

 

When did Henry Armstrong ever have a catch-weight in a title fight? And when did Armstrong ever force or require his opponents to fight at a catchweight?

 

From ESPN-
Henry Armstrong TKO end of 6 Lew Jenkins -- Polo Grounds, N.Y., July 17, 1940

Welterweight champion Henry Armstrong was obliged to weigh in seven pounds under the division limit for his scheduled 12-rounder with lightweight champion Lew Jenkins. This was no problem for Armstrong, a featherweight champion who was small for a welterweight. Armstrong came in at 139 pounds, while Jenkins was just a half-pound over the lightweight limit of 135.
The fight held intrigue because Jenkins, from Sweetwater, Texas, was known to be a terrific hitter. New York Times columnist John Kieran was one of many who felt that Jenkins's big punch gave him a chance. "If he can land that punch on a dodging target like Armstrong he may do well for himself," Kieran opined in a prefight story.
Jenkins did indeed do damage. Joseph P. Dawson reported in The New York Times that Armstrong's left eye was swollen almost shut while his right eye "dripped a blinding flow of blood" after a desperation left hook opened an old cut. Armstrong was winning the fight, though. He took command from the fourth round and Jenkins was down seven times, unable to hold the stronger, superior fighter in Armstrong. Referee Arthur Donovan stopped the fight at the end of the sixth as Jenkins "writhed and groaned on his stool" in the words of reporter Dawson.

 

And how can a fighter get fighter of the decade when they were unheard of for the beginning of it and has his best wins come against fighters who weren't in their top shape and have a loss and draw and only held the p4p spot for about 2 years

 

Speed? Check
Athleticism? Check
Skills? Check

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If anything, they've changed in a sad way cause now all you gotta do is claim that you're the GOAT every 5 seconds and have an undefeated record to have a bunch of douchebags who know nothing about the intricacies of the sport claiming that you are unbeatable.