2012 will be world title unification year for Choc

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  1. old man

    old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Green and Mundine have both seen better days and there is no doubt both should retire.
    I remember one of the greatest heavyweights when questioned on retiring said
    "If they said to me "Here is a million dollars to stay at home"...."I would".
     
  2. oztriker

    oztriker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    John Marsden was a friend of Mundine and Nasser and was frequently in their company.... He also cultivated friendships with quite a few Footie players...... but he was also a renowned Paedo who had friends in very high places.

    He got away with murder because of his contacts.

    He really was the most disgusting piece of **** imaginable.... Great news that he died a horrid painfull death....

    BURN IN HELL PEDO ****

    **** was responsible for Ivan Milat getting off on **** charges which freed him up to go on his killing spree.

    In 2005, after falling ill with cancer, Marsden indicated his belief that Milat had had an accomplice, and expressed some regrets about his success in helping Milat avoid conviction on the earlier **** charges.
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    He recounted an incident that had happened during trial on those charges: after the first day in court, during which Milat appeared likely to be convicted, Marsden - then a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_closet"]
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    [/ame] homosexual - went to a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bar"]
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    [/ame] and noticed the two alleged victims there. The next day in court he [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outing"]
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    [/ame] them as [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian"]
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    [/ame] and relied on the jury's prejudices to attack their credibility and win acquittal for Milat.
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    :-(

    Links
    http://todaysapatheticyouth.blogspot.com/2006/06/john-marsden-**********-scumbag.html

    http://www.slattsnews.observationdeck.org/?p=1594
     
  3. oztriker

    oztriker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He got the payout because Channel 7 had to prove beyond doubt that he was a Pedo.....

    There was plenty of proof.... but not enough to satisfy a Judge.....even thou the Judge ruled that Marsden had attempted to influence witnesses by various means....including using a hit man to get a witness to change his testimony

    A real piece of ****



    In 2001, after 214 days of hearings, Justice David Levine ruled that Seven had failed to prove its allegations of child sexual abuse. Marsden was awarded $525,000 in [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damages"]
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    [/ame] and legal costs, much less than Marsden's actual costs which have been estimated at around $6 million; Seven's own costs at that stage were estimated at $10–12 million.
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    Although Levine ruled in Marsden's favour on the allegations of child sexual abuse, his findings were deeply critical of Marsden in other regards. He found that Marsden had lied about several issues in the trial, notably his role in drafting a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_declaration"]
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    [/ame] by one of the witnesses.
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    He also found that on the
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    [/ame], Marsden had used convicted ****** and murderer [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Cobby_murder"]
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    [/ame] to persuade a witness to change his position, and had probably persuaded two other witnesses to influence another.
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    According to then [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Star_Observer"]
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    editor Marcus O'Donnell, Marsden asked the Observer to publish the names of one of the prosecution witnesses, when there was a suppression order given on the grounds that the witness's life would be in danger if the name were published.
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    Legal commentator Richard Ackland described the case as "probably the biggest piece of civil litigation NSW has seen for many years... without doubt the largest, longest and most comprehensive defamation case in the history of Australia. And probably one of the biggest in the history of the common law world."
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  4. Lead Right

    Lead Right Active Member Full Member

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    interesting. where theres smoke theres fire

    the rumour of The Family is interesting Oz, Was reading that ex Hells Angel Steve Williams was close to sorting quite a few out. The suddenly he disapears
     
  5. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well when Danny retired the last time he said it was because his future as a husband and father was paramount you would think after being bashed senseless his last 2 fights he will retire but then again if he can make money fighting easybeats like Mundine with little risk why not go on.
     
  6. raff

    raff Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ah the epithany, would there really be intrest in the rematch now??
     
  7. perfect jet

    perfect jet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Danny is due for another press conference hey??

    Havent had one for a few weeks. Might tell us what he got for xmas.
     
  8. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't mean that mate. Meant he might be going to fight on but fight easybeats like Mundine does not that they would fight each other.:good
     
  9. abe01

    abe01 Active Member Full Member

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    mundine wasnt such a easy beat last time.who you think has faded more stiff? not sure myself and im a mundine fan
     
  10. ALTogethernow

    ALTogethernow Active Member Full Member

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    abe think he means fight easy opponents, similar to mundine fights easy opponents, I do not think he meant mundine is an easy beat at all, and im pretty sure stiffy would pick Mundine to wide ud green if they ever meet again at a reasonable weight. (correct me if im wrong mate)
     
  11. abe01

    abe01 Active Member Full Member

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    :good my mistake mate.but i still wonder who has lost it more
     
  12. Sox

    Sox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mandy has faded more.
    Green didn't have that much from the start.
     
  13. bazil

    bazil Active Member Full Member

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    marcus beyer showed me all i needed to know about greens boxing ability.
    Its been garbage from day one,he just has great brawling and k.o ability but never a boxer so to speak.
     
  14. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mundine by far.
     
  15. sallywinder

    sallywinder Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its hard to tell. green has fought world class fighters of late. mundine hasnt. so we can really compare any of mundines performances.

    however, i SUSPECT that mundine will have faded badly. what got him out of trouble before will have eroded badly. his leg and handspeed, and stamina will have faded.

    add to that his ridiculous training programme where he gets flogged by fresh sparring partners for the last 7 years will have taken its toll.

    he may be a better 'infighter' than he used to be, but that wasnt the type of fighter that would have taken him to his best level.

    his chin was never his strong point, and now as he gets older, he is going to get hit more and have to rely on his chin more.

    as soon as he fights a good fighter of the competition level, like he did against kessler again, hes going to get KTFO.