2021 Year End P4P List

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Twink Transexuals and Haney Hermaphrodites citing other fighter's opponent's previous losses to try and discredit them is about the dumbest thing ever :lol:

    Loma has fought five prime lightweight world champions ie. who were all world champions at 135 all of whom were way bigger than him

    And two top contenders in Campbell and Nakatani both of who, again, were way bigger than him

    Campbell lost a razor close decision to a prime Linares which The Ring scored for him and Nakatani gave Teofimo ''No More Tall Fighters Anymore'' Lopez 12 rounds of hell

    Neither Haney or Twink have ever fought a single prime world champion who was world champion at 135

    Read that ^^ again

    The only lightweight world champion Twink has ever fought is a shot to bits one-legged torn Achilles tendon 38 y/o crippled Gamboa

    I've seen lots of Haney fans trying to discredit Loma's win over Commey even though he was a world champion at 135, was way bigger, longer and heavier than Loma and is a huge puncher at that weight with a KO 82%

    They cite Commey having lost three times

    This is how stupid they are :facepalm:

    Two of Commey's loses were razor-close very controversial split decisions in his opponent's backyards and many feel he deserved the decision in both of those loses

    The other loss was to fellow massive 135 pounder and hardest puncher in the division Teofimo from a perfect right hand bomb that would've dropped an elephant

    That's the only time Commey had ever been down before

    This is Haney's who they claim is the next Floyd is way better than Loma (I'm not joking. The crap I have to hear from these clowns is utterly insane) resume in a nutshell

    And don't forget in complete contrast to all the lightweights Loma's fought Haney is way bigger than all of them

    Linares - well past prime near 36 y/o who was 3-2 in his previous 5 fights, both loses via KO

    Diaz - blown up 126-130 featherfist who has only stopped 2 of his last 13 opponents

    Gamboa - chinny as hell 39 y/o and shot to bits who has only stopped 2 of his 12 opponents at 135 and one was shot

    Let's apply the same standards to Haney's victims as they do to Loma's and in particular his win over Commey

    Linares had 5 losses prior to fighting Haney all of which by KO or stoppage

    Guess who KO'd a prime active way bigger and longer Linares who hadn't lost in six years and was ranked #11 by The Ring at the time?

    Loma

    And Loma suffered a very serious shoulder injury in round 2

    Spectacular own goal

    Gamboa had incurred three losses prior to fighting Haney all of which via KO or stoppage, one of which to a 25-12 journeyman who was coming off a stoppage loss and would go on to lose his next two fights inside the distance too

    It should've been four loses because Loma victim Jason Sosa was robbed against a better version three year younger version of Gamboa than the shot corpse of Gamboa Haney fought

    Another own goal lol

    Diaz's loss?

    Diaz lost to Loma victim Gary Russell Jr. who a 1-1 Loma literally toyed with like he was nothing in his backyard lol

    Another massive own goal

    Diaz was also lucky to get the decision against Javier Fortuna

    Guess who KO'd Fortuna?

    Loma victim Jason Sosa who Loma toyed with like he was nothing

    Another own goal lol

    Haney who comes in at 155 or higher and would've been much heavier and had a whopping 7'' reach advantage on Diaz couldn't even wobble the way lighter and smaller leprechaun who is a blown up 126-130 pounder and who, unlike Commey, has never won a world title at 135, had only fought officially once at the weight before and that was a controversial decision he was lucky to win

    He couldn't even wobble the way smaller and lighter shot 39 y/o Gamboa who has been dropped in like 11 different fights including by Loma victim Jason Sosa, stopped in all his losses, and who he had a whopping 6'' reach advantage over

    He couldn't even wobble a well past prime inactive Linares who has been stopped five times including by an injured blown up 126 pounder Loma and that was a prime Linares

    Again, Haney is much naturally bigger than Linares and way way bigger, longer and heavier than Gamboa and Diaz

    Gamboa was a world champion at lightweight 7 years ago and was 39, way smaller and shot to bits when he fought Haney

    And guess who Gamboa won his world title at 135 against?

    Darleys Perez and it was a very tough and competitive 12 decision

    Guess who KO'd Perez in 5 rounds a few fights later?

    Loma victim KO 28% Anthony Crolla who is probably the lightest puncher Loma has ever fought :lol:

    Yet another own goal

    Commey was ranked #5 at lightweight by The Ring (#4 a week earlier) and was a world champion at 135, and in complete contrast to Haney's only good/decent/half decent wins, is way bigger, longer, heavier and more powerful than Loma

    Diaz was ranked #6 by The Ring despite only having one fight at the weight which was a razor close controversial decision over Fortuna which he was lucky to win

    The way smaller shot to bits Gamboa was coming off a KO loss in his previous fight going into the Haney fight

    Way past it and smaller Linares had been KO'd in 2 of his previous 5 fights going into the Haney fight

    The way smaller and lighter Jojo Diaz was coming off a controversial win and draw in his previous two fights and he did lose to Loma's son GRJ who unlike Haney is the same size as him not a way heavier 155 pound giant with a 7'' reach advantage. If Jojo Diaz was the same size as Haney or even close to his size he would've 100% beaten him

    Haney's resume is in absolute tatters :lol:
     
  2. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    1. Usyk
    2. Canelo
    3. Inoue
    4. Lomachenko
    5. Crawford
    6. Taylor
    7. Spence
    8. Fury
    9. Estrada
    10. Beterbiev
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    #10. Vasyl Lomachenko
    #09. George Kambosos
    #08. Mairis Briedis
    #07. Errol Spence Jr.
    #06. Naoya Inoue
    #05. Juan Fransisco Estrada
    #04. Josh Taylor
    #03. Terence Crawford
    #02. Canelo Alvarez
    #01. Oleksandr Usyk

    I think, it could change. The main criteria is sort of blending their overall careers with their most recent achievements. This also isn't a list of who I think is "the best" in the world, just who is a mix of the most accomplished, and has been on the best form recently.
     
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  4. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    1. Usyk
    2. Canelo
    3. Inoue
    4. Taylor
    5. Crawford
    6. Loma
    7. Estrada
    8. Fury
    9. Bebertiev
    10. Spence
     
  5. DramaShow

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    1. Saul Alvarez
    2. Oleksandr Usyk
    3. Terence Crawford
    4. Naoya Inoue
    5. Juan Franciso Estrada
    6. Josh Taylor
    7. Roman Gonzalez
    8. Vasyl Lomachenko
    9. Nonito Donaire
    10. Tyson Fury

    Honorable mentions: Oscar Valdez, Artur Beterbiev, Stephen Fulton
     
  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    That really is the bottom line. You cannot be in the top 10 P4P when you are not a current world champion.
     
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  7. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" banned Full Member

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    Haha everyone hates Canelo but still has him as a top 3 p4p bc they know their list would look ridiculous with him off it
     
  8. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just thought I'd add LDBC Champside's new P4P list for the end of 2021. Prepare yourselves for an abomination.The most biased brand in the land!

    1. Terence Crawford
    2. Errol Spence Jr
    3. Shakur Stevenson
    4. Josh Taylor
    5. Stephen Fulton Jr
    6. Jermell Charlo
    7. Devin Haney
    8. Gervonta Davis
    9. Jaron Ennis
    10. Yordenis Ugas

    They included a white guy on the list. How kind! That's not like them.

    Usyk not included because 'he's a heavyweight'.

    Canelo because he's a cheat. Something I can actually agree with the LDBC on.
     
  9. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    1. Inoue
    2. Usyk

    The rest.
     
  10. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    he is. He hasn't fought with any regularity for years and his career is being wasted.
    I've heard it floated that it's nearly impossible to get out of a Haymon contract and some of the statements on Russell's ring attire certainly lend credibility to the theory.
     
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  11. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    WOW.......... there's so many names on there that may have p4p talent but haven't fought the opposition to be included. Almost half the list is crystal ball gazing an idealized future.
    Ennis, Davis, Haney, Stevenson may one day be legit p4p but these guys have fought very limited opposition.
     
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  12. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Haymon fighters get paid.
     
  13. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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  14. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    He is getting his wish to fight Tank next.
     
  15. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1 Jake Paul
    2-10 The rest.
     
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