2024 Joe Joyce vs 2024 Otto Wallin

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  1. Joyce

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  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who wins and why?
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The Juggernaut walks right through him.
     
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  3. Redbeard7

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  4. senpai

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    Walling might be lighest puncher in HW division, by his size.
     
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  5. CST80

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  7. Redbeard7

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    Had it been in America it's either a draw or 7-5 Jennings. Parker had been in tons of hard 12 rounders, was plodding, 30 lbs heavier than Jennings, with short arms (76 inch reach vs 84). Ex-trainer Sanchez said that Joyce struggled with mobile fighters and kept him away from southpaw counter puncher Ortiz, only for his new team to have the idea to fight southpaw counter puncher Zhang twice for zero upside.
     
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  8. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Zhang is a terrible style match up for Joyce purely because of his Olympic pedigree/skill, power and size.

    Wallin has none of those. Joyce still beats many at HW including Hrgovic
     
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  9. CST80

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    It's not movement that gave Joyce issues with Zhang, it was his power. Wallin couldn't KO ****ing Breazeale, his punches will have zero effect on Joyce.
     
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  10. Redbeard7

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    Wallin has a long list of advantages over Joyce. For a start Joyce says he struggles with the southpaw stance.
     
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  11. WhataRock

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    Joe gobbles up Wallin like some Ikea Swedish meatballs.

    A good comeback from him.
     
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  12. Redbeard7

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    Jennings hurt Joyce to the body and was never in any trouble in a very competitive 12 rounder. Light punching cruiserweight Usyk, who couldn't hurt Gassiev at all, was often backing Joyce up.

    I think Wallin targets Joyce's right eye repeatedly with straight lefts and Joyce starts to fall apart mentally. He looked like he'd seen a ghost in the Zhang 2 ringwalk.
     
    Redbeard7, Oct 7, 2023
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  13. Redbeard7

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    They'll put him in with a cab driver instead and then try to feed him to Dubois.
     
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  14. CST80

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    Fine, you base your assessment off of his one shitty performance pre-Zhang, and I'll base mine off of the rest of his performances, where he walked through everyone like the ****ing Terminator, we'll see which one of us is right if it ever happens. Now stop quoting me.
     
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  15. Redbeard7

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    40 year old, 15 months inactive, 6', 273 lbs Stiverne went 6 rounds with Joyce before getting TKO'd

    6'2, 225 lbs experienced long-armed mover Jennings was 50-50 over 12, in America it goes the other way

    6'4.5, 240 lbs novice Dubois would have got an A-side/gift decision if he had even average top 30 heart

    Parker was always bang average (lost to Whyte), battle worn, 1.5 stone overweight at 255 lbs, 6'2.5 with T-rex arms but still gave Joyce a decent fight over 11

    6'6, 20 stone, 40 year old southpaw Zhang (beat Hrgovic up) schooled and smashed Joyce to bits twice
     
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